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      Oxolinic Acid - calculator

      Oxolinic Acid is another of the waterborne antibacterials, probably the strongest of the lot. It's used in a lot of instances where injectibles are not available, or not feasible ... like you just got a batch of younglings that are riddled with bacterial infections and budding ulcers (i.e., too many to inject). It would not be possible to inject 50 younglings, so you give 'em a bath and put them back into good water. Do it again in a couple of days ... you give baths on the same schedule as injections.
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      OXOLINIC ACID MEDICATED FOOD
      If you need to administer this anitbiotic to your fish you can use the following recipe to make "fish jello" for them.
      6 Cups koi food pellets
      4 Cups Water
      6 Packets Knox gelatin
      5 Grams Oxolinc Acid powder

      1. Turn the 6 cups of pellets into powder using a blender.
      2. In a large skillet or wok, boil the water and add gelatin. Stir until completely dissolved.
      3. Cool gel-liquid until lukewarm.
      4. Add Oxolinic Acid to gel liquid and stir well.
      5. Add powdered food and mix well with a fork.
      6. Place in pan and refrigerate. Cut into squares to give to fish.
      Feed this to the fish for 7 days. Stop for 1 week then feed jello for 7 more days.



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      Hi Cindy -

      Thanks for posting this information.

      I mixed some Oxolinic Acid for a bath not long ago and noticed that the powder isn't particularly easily dissolvable in water. There seemed to be a fair amount floating on top of the water that I needed to chase around the edges to help dissolve. Do you recommend mixing in a separate container first, the way you would shake up clove oil in a 2 liter bottle, before adding to the larger bath water... or before adding to the food recipe for that matter?

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      And as a dip .9 grams/1grams to 10 gallons of water.
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      put in a gatorade bottle or baby food jar and shake with water

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      I made your recipe Cindy and after a while in the frig it started to mold. I suggest making smaller batches or use the following recipe and more info.
      From the web.
      OXOLINIC ACID
      DOSAGE: 2 teaspoons of Oxolinic Acid Powder for every 1 pound of koi pellets. Mix the medication with approximately 2 ounces of water. Add this to a spray bottle, and spray the entire contents over the feed. Let air dry. Note: It is important that you do not use any heat element to dry the feed because it will destroy the medication.

      Use a fan to expedite the drying process if necessary. Feed the medicated feed to the fish once a day for two weeks. Do not feed any other food except for the medicated food during treatment time. You do not need oil or gelatin to get the medication to stick to the food. This is a waste of time, and it pollutes the water.

      There are 16 different forms of Aeromonas. Including viral strains of Aeromonas that cannot be cured with the medications we have today.

      We like to use a combination of Oxolinic Acid mixed into the feed, and Potassium Permanganate in the water to prevent a secondary fungal infection from developing on the ulceration's.

      Many people cure the Aeromonas infection with the Oxolinic Acid and then find after the completion of the treatment, the sores are still open and red. This is due to saprolegnia fungus that has invaded the ulceration's and is acting like a parasite, eating away at the sores. This is why it is important to use an anti-fungal medication in the water along with the Oxolinic Acid in the feed. We like the Potassium Permanganate best, but you can use Malachite Green or Forma-Green in the water instead.

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      I cannot find my gram scale..I need to treat a fish with an ulcer I missed. Is there a measurement that can be used that is safe like 1/8tsp/10 gallons or something? Some meds have a forgiveness factor that would allow doing that. Don't know if OA is one of them. I sure liked it when I used it before.
      I am leaving on Tuesday for NC and cannot get a scale before I leave and I want to get a few treatments in before I go

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      Quote Originally Posted by Cowiche Ponder View Post
      I cannot find my gram scale..I need to treat a fish with an ulcer I missed. Is there a measurement that can be used that is safe like 1/8tsp/10 gallons or something? Some meds have a forgiveness factor that would allow doing that. Don't know if OA is one of them. I sure liked it when I used it before.
      I am leaving on Tuesday for NC and cannot get a scale before I leave and I want to get a few treatments in before I go
      Well, I just realized that I dosed my dunkers with 1gr per gallon instead of 1gr per 10 gallons for 30 minutes....that was a few days ago and nobody croaked on me. In fact, nobody reacted badly at all. Not a one. And every booboo is healing nicely too.

      So I guess it's forgiving, or I'm just really really lucky.
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      Quote Originally Posted by FLABOY08 View Post
      You have the recommend dosage for a bath? Or is the insturctions on the internet?
      http://web.archive.org/web/201306011...rs/calcwgt.asp

      When he says 30 minute baths, he's being very conservative. Most fish can handle 3 hours, and I've heard of folks who have left their fish in the bath for 3 days (but NO MORE).

      You cannot run filtration with it: it will kill a filter. It's antibacterial - and your filter's biobugs are .... bacteria.
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      Be sure of the one your using Oxolium ® or 100% Pure Oxolonic Acid.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lee B View Post
      http://www.cnykoi.com/calculators/calcoxacid.asps

      When he says 30 minute baths, he's being very conservative. Most fish can handle 3 hours, and I've heard of folks who have left their fish in the bath for 3 days (but NO MORE).

      You cannot run filtration with it: it will kill a filter. It's antibacterial - and your filter's biobugs are .... bacteria.
      I concur to this. I would recommend at least 1 hour -2 hours that what I treated my fishes. I would not want my fishes endure longer than 3 hours because the side effect to internal organs exposure to this chemical. I used the dosage from the calculator but I let the fishes bath for at least 1 hour, half an hour is too short for effective treatments.

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      I agree with Bill method of making med food for kois. I use the same method and dosage for other meds as well on koi food. Best combo bath and DIY med food like Bill instruction is very effective, I find for my koi treatments.

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      I made your recipe Cindy and after a while in the frig it started to mold. I suggest making smaller batches or use the following recipe and more info.
      From the web.
      OXOLINIC ACID
      DOSAGE: 2 teaspoons of Oxolinic Acid Powder for every 1 pound of koi pellets. Mix the medication with approximately 2 ounces of water. Add this to a spray bottle, and spray the entire contents over the feed. Let air dry. Note: It is important that you do not use any heat element to dry the feed because it will destroy the medication.

      Use a fan to expedite the drying process if necessary. Feed the medicated feed to the fish once a day for two weeks. Do not feed any other food except for the medicated food during treatment time. You do not need oil or gelatin to get the medication to stick to the food. This is a waste of time, and it pollutes the water.

      There are 16 different forms of Aeromonas. Including viral strains of Aeromonas that cannot be cured with the medications we have today.

      We like to use a combination of Oxolinic Acid mixed into the feed, and Potassium Permanganate in the water to prevent a secondary fungal infection from developing on the ulceration's.

      Many people cure the Aeromonas infection with the Oxolinic Acid and then find after the completion of the treatment, the sores are still open and red. This is due to saprolegnia fungus that has invaded the ulceration's and is acting like a parasite, eating away at the sores. This is why it is important to use an anti-fungal medication in the water along with the Oxolinic Acid in the feed. We like the Potassium Permanganate best, but you can use Malachite Green or Forma-Green in the water instead.

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      I would suggest starting a new thread for discussing the uses of Vitamin C or other "remedies" and keep this one on the topic it started with - Oxylinic Acid!

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      Would the feeding of the homemade medicated food affect the bio also? I am thinking yes so should be fed in the QT with the filter bypassed for how long?
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      Good question. I'd say yes and it was meant for a qt.

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