• Amused
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Awesome
  • Bemused
  • Cocky
  • Cool
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Depressed
  • Down
  • Drunk
  • Embarrased
  • Enraged
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Godly
  • Happy
  • Hateful
  • Hungry
  • Innocent
  • Meh
  • Piratey
  • Poorly
  • Sad
  • Secret
  • Shy
  • Sneaky
  • Tired
  • Results 1 to 20 of 20

    Thread: 2 inch Bottom Drain completely clogged

    1. #1
      bart is offline Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Location
      long island
      Posts
      45

      Question 2 inch Bottom Drain completely clogged

      I reached down in there and felt some pebbles and stuck the hose into either end of the system but that didn't do anything.

    2. #2
      Russell Peters's Avatar
      Russell Peters is offline Supporting Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Dec 2007
      Location
      .
      Posts
      25,534
      Quote Originally Posted by bart View Post
      I reached down in there and felt some pebbles and stuck the hose into either end of the system but that didn't do anything.
      A hose will not work nor will some other kind of pressure device as the pebbles will allow some water get by them thus keeping the pressure from working. You are going to have to get in there and dig them out. You probably need to monty the pond and get on your hands and knees and make some sort of device that can grab at the pebbles. You may even have to take the whole thing apart. If you can get an electricians pull tape in from the side that is out of the pond and work your way back to the pebbles, pushing on them from the back side, you might have a chance but you will have had to installed long sweep 90"s for that to work.
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

    3. #3
      bart is offline Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Location
      long island
      Posts
      45
      Thanks I'll let you know how it turns out. I hope there aren't too many pebbles

    4. #4
      CALHOUN is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2008
      Location
      MONROE, MI
      Posts
      191
      In my old setup I would have issues like this, I would take my pump and put the output on the BD side and just pull pond water on the suction side. Worked every time, it would blow the stones back out of the pipes, also blows the dome off!

    5. #5
      kevin32's Avatar
      kevin32 is online now Supporting Member
      is chillin
       
      Feeling:
      Friendly
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2014
      Location
      Brentwood, ca up north
      Posts
      7,444
      You need to ditch the 2 inch drain
      . Retrofit 3 inch drains would be much better in the long run

    6. #6
      bart is offline Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Location
      long island
      Posts
      45
      3 inch drains would be sweet, but everything is so far buried underground

    7. #7
      BWG is online now Senior Member
      is 999875421235621456478541.1
       
      Feeling:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Mar 2013
      Location
      ZONE 5
      Posts
      3,346
      Try one of these on a garden hose and run reverse flow. Swells and seals pipe then flows water. Some pulse the water.
      Attached Images Attached Images  

    8. #8
      tbullard is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2010
      Location
      Augusta,GA
      Posts
      1,233
      Quote Originally Posted by bart View Post
      3 inch drains would be sweet, but everything is so far buried underground
      He was referring to a retro bottom drain which sits inside the pond with the pipe also in the pond. This would replace the 2" line and is designed for ponds that didn't have a Bottom Drain installed.

    9. #9
      bart is offline Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Location
      long island
      Posts
      45
      Quote Originally Posted by tbullard View Post
      He was referring to a retro bottom drain which sits inside the pond with the pipe also in the pond. This would replace the 2" line and is designed for ponds that didn't have a Bottom Drain installed.
      Ohh ok, so like one of these?Name:  bottom drain.PNG
Views: 214
Size:  104.2 KB

      I should also note that one of the bottom drains is too high, it juts up about 2-4 inches from the bottom of the pond and it's solidly built into the ground. NO idea what I'm going to do. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    10. #10
      tbullard is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2010
      Location
      Augusta,GA
      Posts
      1,233

    11. #11
      BWG is online now Senior Member
      is 999875421235621456478541.1
       
      Feeling:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Mar 2013
      Location
      ZONE 5
      Posts
      3,346
      Place check valve in pond. Do not bury as it is a possible plug and failure point.
      Attached Images Attached Images  

    12. #12
      bart is offline Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Location
      long island
      Posts
      45
      Sounds like a really good idea! These retro bottom drains connect to the filter via (pvc?) pipe and is pumped there via submersible pump? FYI my filtration system consists of three barrels (the fourth connects to the bottom drain). My pond is quite large (45ft by 15ft by 3-4.5 feet about)
      Last edited by bart; 09-11-2018 at 12:54 AM.

    13. #13
      kevin32's Avatar
      kevin32 is online now Supporting Member
      is chillin
       
      Feeling:
      Friendly
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2014
      Location
      Brentwood, ca up north
      Posts
      7,444
      A 2 inch drain will always have problems. Can you post a pic of your pond and also your filtration system?

    14. #14
      tbullard is offline Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2010
      Location
      Augusta,GA
      Posts
      1,233
      Quote Originally Posted by bart View Post
      Sounds like a really good idea! These retro bottom drains connect to the filter via (pvc?) pipe and is pumped there via submersible pump? FYI my filtration system consists of three barrels (the fourth connects to the bottom drain). My pond is quite large (45ft by 15ft by 3-4.5 feet about)
      Yes they connect with PVC. They would actually use a external pump.
      You can plumb them via direct suction as shown in the first diagram but it would be preferable to use a Zakki sieve for that type install so the debris are filtered before they get to the pump.
      A little more difficult to install but you can also use a bulkhead so that the pipe stays below pond water level and this would allow you to gravity flow into a filter outside the pond before the water reaches the pump as shown in the second diagram.

    15. #15
      bart is offline Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Location
      long island
      Posts
      45
      . Any recommendations on the power or type of pump? I don't think I'll be able to do a bulkhead since it will require me to dig underneath my deck.

      Will the external pump be within the first filtration barrell?
      Last edited by bart; 09-14-2018 at 12:09 AM.

    16. #16
      bart is offline Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Location
      long island
      Posts
      45
      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      You need to ditch the 2 inch drain
      . Retrofit 3 inch drains would be much better in the long run
      Sorry I didn't mention that there are two 2-inch bottom drains- does that make any difference? I'm not sure if those gravity fed bottom drains would beat out the retro bd

    17. #17
      kevin32's Avatar
      kevin32 is online now Supporting Member
      is chillin
       
      Feeling:
      Friendly
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2014
      Location
      Brentwood, ca up north
      Posts
      7,444
      Quote Originally Posted by bart View Post
      Sorry I didn't mention that there are two 2-inch bottom drains- does that make any difference? I'm not sure if those gravity fed bottom drains would beat out the retro bd
      I dont want to be rude but you could have 4 2 drains and still not good. 2 3 inch retrofit. Will work much better. A 2 inch drain is not ideal and I'd only use on a 600 gallon or less pond imo

    18. #18
      BWG is online now Senior Member
      is 999875421235621456478541.1
       
      Feeling:
      Happy
       
      Join Date
      Mar 2013
      Location
      ZONE 5
      Posts
      3,346
      Since the drains are already in place just make a weighted dome to place over the drains. Leave holes or slots in the dome large enough to pass debree that won't plug the drain. Put a loop on top of the dome to hook and remove with a pole for cleaning. Not optimum but works with what is already in place.

    19. #19
      GloriaL's Avatar
      GloriaL is online now Supporting Member
      is YADA YADA YADA YADA WWKC Life
      time Diamond Member
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Jul 2006
      Location
      Knoxville, Tn
      Posts
      4,809
      If you can float a line thru the bottom drain, tie a rag that will just fit into your 2 pipe and tie another line at least as long so you can pull it back the other way if it gets stuck. You may be able to pull the pebbles out. Then going forward make sure there are no pebbles in your pond or in pots in your pond. A retro drain will not likely get clogged with pebbles as they are probably too heavy to be picked up. A 3 or 4 real bottom drain and no rocks is your best bet!
      GloriaL
      YADA YADA YADA YADA WWKC Life time Diamond Member # 10












    20. #20
      bart is offline Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Sep 2017
      Location
      long island
      Posts
      45
      I feel that the opening of the drain is 3 inches but most of the pipe is 2 inches :/

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •