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    Thread: related to how to feed, please explain how MUCH to feed

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      related to how to feed, please explain how MUCH to feed

      7K pond
      8 koi 17-20 inches
      8 koi10-15 inches
      7 under 10 inches
      currently feeding blue ridge and Hikari

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      Given the small size, you want high protein growth food. At least 40% protein. feed what they can eat in around 5 minutes at least 5 times a day.

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      that's the other issue. They would continue to eat as much as I tossed in for all of the five minutes. take a look at my other post, How to feed

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      Quote Originally Posted by moliken View Post
      7K pond
      8 koi 17-20 inches
      8 koi10-15 inches
      7 under 10 inches
      currently feeding blue ridge and Hikari
      Okay I did some math for you base on your info and I use the avg length with the koi calculator above to figure out the total weight of your herd

      18.5” koi is 3.8 lbs times 8 =30.4 lbs
      13” koi Is 1.33 lbs times 8=10.64 lbs
      8” koi is. 0.31 times 7 = 2.17 lbs

      Total est weight of your herd is 43.21

      1% is .43 lbs
      2% is .86 lbs
      3% is 1.29 lbs
      Are you feeding anywhere in this range?
      If you have super filtration/ great turnover rate/ optimal temperature and a lot of waterchange feed up to 3% body weight daily
      I use an auto feeder and I set from 6am-6pm for an daily amount and its mart enough to dispense the food into small portion every hour no more no less

      Another great way to see if they eating too much is floating poop, clear poop like diarrhea and that how you manage better hand tossing to them
      They would digest the food faster in water temp from 68f-78f (77f or 25C is optimal) Like every 2 hours
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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      Okay I did some math for you base on your info and I use the avg length with the koi calculator above to figure out the total weight of your herd

      18.5” koi is 3.8 lbs times 8 =30.4 lbs
      13” koi Is 1.33 lbs times 8=10.64 lbs
      8” koi is. 0.31 times 7 = 2.17 lbs

      Total est weight of your herd is 43.21

      1% is .43 lbs
      2% is .86 lbs
      3% is 1.29 lbs
      Are you feeding anywhere in this range?
      If you have super filtration/ great turnover rate/ optimal temperature and a lot of waterchange feed up to 3% body weight daily
      I use an auto feeder and I set from 6am-6pm for an daily amount and its mart enough to dispense the food into small portion every hour no more no less

      Another great way to see if they eating too much is floating poop, clear poop like diarrhea and that how you manage better hand tossing to them
      They would digest the food faster in water temp from 68f-78f (77f or 25C is optimal) Like every 2 hours
      "Floating poo" is a bad sign of overfeeding?

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      Quote Originally Posted by wingrider View Post
      "Floating poo" is a bad sign of overfeeding?
      Can be. Also can relate to some types of food. An occasional 'floater' is no big deal. If it happens "all the time", there is an issue. ....Now, figure out if it just one fish with the issue or the whole pond. ....I have no advice for figuring that out.

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      Quote Originally Posted by wingrider View Post
      "Floating poo" is a bad sign of overfeeding?
      Try give them high protein suddenly and you will see
      The body just can’t process/digest too much protein too often

      For any poo wonderers I add a picture so ya know what is it look like

      And yes MikeM is correct there might be one or two water pigs that seem to get more than others
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      I've seen a couple in the last week or so- leading me to believe it's not a problem based on this feedback.

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      The limit in feeding is your filtration. Over feed and you get the ammonia and nitrites spikes. With 7000 gallons that may be quite a bit of food.
      Need more Koi

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      The back of my napkin says about the same weight as OCkoiFan got. The 7000 gallon pond is then only stocked to about 160 gallons per pound (7000/43), which is rather light. I struggle to keep mine down to 50-60 gallons per pound, re-homing some each year or two. I like them to grow a lot. So I feed a lot (which I don't measure) and many times a day and just monitor the water to make sure the filter is handling it. Though it works okay for my pond, it is probably not quite as safe as more measured approaches others have mentioned.

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      Thanks Mr. Nguyen, Your calculations were extremely helpful.I am very grateful. Right now, I am feeding them about a pound of a mix of Hikari and Blue Ridge supplemented with silkworm pellet treats per day.

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      Quote Originally Posted by moliken View Post
      7K pond
      8 koi 17-20 inches
      8 koi10-15 inches
      7 under 10 inches
      currently feeding blue ridge and Hikari
      I always factor in the bio filter. If the biofiltration is weak, like only a pressure filter and UV, then I would not feed as much as if the biofiltration was strong, like a big shower (and/or moving bed).


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