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    Thread: backyard mutt fun time

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      backyard mutt fun time

      The last couple years if I drop water lettuce or hyacinth in my pond I've had flock spawns and have saved and raised a few of the offspring. I got mostly ogons, but I did get one showa out of the mix. This year I decided to select a spawning pair and see what happens. I know my fish are only pet store quality. I do this purely for the fun of it. Figured why not share it here.
      Momma is a gin rin kohaku and papa is an ochiba (I guess). The male actually turns all black when he's in the pond. He lightens up over winter and did slightly in the small pool I used for spawning. They were only in it for less than 24 hours and the (poor quality) photos were taken post spawn. Spawning took place 2 weeks ago, 5/24. Hatching started over Memorial Day. Fry are going on two weeks old.
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      wow! Congrats on the young-ins.

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      Congrats! Have fun this summer as they grow.
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      Congratulations and thanks for posting this spawning success. You might get quite a variety of types from this interesting combination. Not a crossing most would have chosen, but it may provide a learning opportunity not often seen. Please keep us informed of the developments, and best of luck.

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      Thanks. As for the pairing: I pretty much just have ogons and specklegoi, and I knew what gender these two were from catching them in the act last year.
      I had a male gin rin bekko that I really liked but it jumped out and I lost it about a year ago.

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      Am I a bad parent for letting my one month old wear lipstick?
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      Pulled a couple confirmed tobi cannibals and suspects of size. Raising them in my garage and they don't get enough sunlight so the colors are really dull yet.
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      and one midget who got caught in the net. The average fry are somewhere between the size of the one in the top left and the next smallest.
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      Quote Originally Posted by flobb View Post
      Pulled a couple confirmed tobi cannibals and suspects of size. Raising them in my garage ...
      The average fry are somewhere between the size of the one in the top left and the next smallest.
      Good size and bodies on those, though tobi. It's good that you separated them. I think feeding plenty of high protein helps keep tobi from developing as much. The reason is that the little ones grow better, and fewer of them are targets for the tobi wannabes. So the tobi don't grow as much and can't eat as many siblings.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
      Good size and bodies on those, though tobi. It's good that you separated them. I think feeding plenty of high protein helps keep tobi from developing as much. The reason is that the little ones grow better, and fewer of them are targets for the tobi wannabes. So the tobi don't grow as much and can't eat as many siblings.
      Yep...my fry were spawned at the same time. Fed 50% powder and now the same in tiny pellets. I only have 8/9 but fun to see them grow. They already come
      when I say "Come on babies" I disposed of about a million eggs.


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      I have maybe a couple hundred fry. I spotted this one that's kinda crazy looking. The tail tube is all black and the head/body are yellowish-white. I tried to grab my phone for a quick pic but it escaped before I could.

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      Some quick pictures. I moved them out of my garage yesterday to a small upper section of my pond. Many escaped and I recovered almost all of them then (hopefully) fixed their exit point.

      Here's a tobi and that kuchibeni one from earlier with other mid-size fry.
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      GR Sanke/Showa?
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      And others
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      These will be a lot of fun to watch grow!
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      Wow! That's a lot of babies. Looks like you got quite a few Ochiba. One of my favorites as you can see from my Avatar
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      It be picture updating time:
      group shots. These are basically all of them minus one tobi ~4 inches, and a handful over 2"
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      And some close ups. Got a lot of tails offset to one side, and smushed faces. I didn't do any culling aside from zig-zag spines picked out here and there.

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      Quote Originally Posted by flobb View Post
      ... These are basically all of them minus one tobi ~4 inches, and a handful over 2"
      Nice work! And thanks for the update pics. Having come from a kohaku and an ochiba, I would have expected more to look like a mix of the two. But instead, most look like they came from either one or the other. Looks like you have lots of soragoi, cha, and a few sanke as well. Please keep us posted in the coming months as they develop further.

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      Thanks, and yeah I was expecting to see a bunch of ugly looking mutts and hoping to get a GR chagoi or ochiba. But like you said, it's basically split. That bekko/utsuri/mutt is the only one like it in the whole bunch.
      I only ended up with the one genuine tobi and I had left it in with the rest for the longest time. I'm sure it took out a good number of other fry. If I had to guess I'd say I'm down to less than half of what hatched with no population management on my part.

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