• Amused
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Awesome
  • Bemused
  • Cocky
  • Cool
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Depressed
  • Down
  • Drunk
  • Embarrased
  • Enraged
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Godly
  • Happy
  • Hateful
  • Hungry
  • Innocent
  • Meh
  • Piratey
  • Poorly
  • Sad
  • Secret
  • Shy
  • Sneaky
  • Tired
  • Results 1 to 9 of 9

    Thread: New fish flashing in q-tank

    1. #1
      duchoaaz is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2016
      Location
      Upstate NY
      Posts
      11

      New fish flashing in q-tank

      Hello Koiphen,

      Is it normal for new fish to flashing?

      I ordered 8 fingerling koi fish online. They are 5-7 inches long. Within couple hours in quarantine tank after delivered, at least 2 of them are started flashing.

      The q-tank is 50 gallon. It is in the basement and water temp is consistent at 70 degree. It has a 1000 gph submersible pump to a 5 gallon s&g filter. It also has a small aeration stone.

      Water is from main pond which has 1 fish in it. Water quality is good before adding fish. After about 10 hours of adding fish, I test water again and everything still look good except ammonia rise from 0 to .25. I didn't feed the fish yet. I added 1 pound of solar water softener salt so far.

      Is there any thing I can do before it get worst?

      Thank you all

    2. #2
      OCkoiFan's Avatar
      OCkoiFan is offline Supporting Member
      is Don’t let yesterday use
      up too much of today
       
      Feeling:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Apr 2014
      Location
      Orange County, CA
      Posts
      2,823
      Do a shotgun treatment
      3 days of Proform C or equivalent products then 2 rounds of Fluke M
      http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showth...-and-parasites
      You can choose to wait and watch but I alway treat all my new addition

      Isnít that pump too powerful? Watch it might overflow the barrel
      Last edited by OCkoiFan; 1 Week Ago at 01:35 AM.
      M.Nguyen


    3. #3
      duchoaaz is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2016
      Location
      Upstate NY
      Posts
      11
      @OCkoiFan

      I don't have Profom C and Fluke-M on hand. I ordered them already, should be here next week. Thank you for your input.

    4. #4
      ademink's Avatar
      ademink is offline Supporting Member ~ Koi Health Care Committee Member
      is looking at revamping
      filtration...yet again.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Apr 2005
      Location
      Indianapolis, IN
      Posts
      2,812
      Test the KH and pH. Could be pH issues that are causing flashing.

      I would also advise making sure you are using an ammonia binding product.
      Andrea
      Koi Health Care Committee Member



    5. #5
      duchoaaz is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2016
      Location
      Upstate NY
      Posts
      11
      I have the API test kit and it doesn't have the KH test in it. I will look for it at my local pet store. Can somebody list some ammonia binding product brand name. I search and come up with only Seachem AmGuard. This may not available locally.

    6. #6
      icu2's Avatar
      icu2 is offline Administrator ~ WWKC Treasurer
      is usually here but if not I'm
      probably off flying
       
      Feeling:
      Piratey
       
      Join Date
      Feb 2007
      Location
      Poulsbo, WA
      Posts
      24,820
      Some other ammonia binders are Prime (liquid) and Safe (powder). Same stuff but my
      local store only carries Prime.
      If they don't have a KH test kit, Billy can set you up:

      http://www.cascade-pond-supply.com/T...its-p-521.html
      --Steve
      Find more about Weather in Poulsbo, WA

      "It is far better to be alone, than to be in bad company." --George Washington

    7. #7
      OCkoiFan's Avatar
      OCkoiFan is offline Supporting Member
      is Don’t let yesterday use
      up too much of today
       
      Feeling:
      Cool
       
      Join Date
      Apr 2014
      Location
      Orange County, CA
      Posts
      2,823
      You stated that these koi are ordered online and I doubt that they are free of parasites
      So I said you can treat or watch and wait

      You might be okay since they are fingerlings but I recommend more volume for the tank in future at least 150g to 300g prefers
      Meantime learn and get your tests in range
      Ammo prefer close to 0ppm
      Nitrite prefer close to 0ppm
      Nitrate acceptable range 1-40ppm (my opinion)
      KH (over 100 or 8drops)

      I use prime seachem too powder version and cheap on amazon shipped 2 days with Prime account worth it
      M.Nguyen


    8. #8
      ademink's Avatar
      ademink is offline Supporting Member ~ Koi Health Care Committee Member
      is looking at revamping
      filtration...yet again.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Apr 2005
      Location
      Indianapolis, IN
      Posts
      2,812
      Good advice! I also use Seachem - I use the powder version called Safe. Expensive on the front end but lasts forever.

      I would also highly recommend also purchasing the (inexpensive) Seachem Ammonia Alert Disk. You hang it in your QT tank and it will show the *harmful* ammonia level. When you use a binder, your API drop test kits will test false-positive for ammonia and it will make you crazy thinking the ammonia is never bound. lol

      Seachem Prime and Safe both bind ammonia AND nitrites. You need to re-dose for the *full volume* of the system every 48 hours to re-bind, or when you see the alert disk indicate there is harmful ammonia present.

      My experience is that it takes around 4-6 weeks for a new QT with bio to fully cycle so prep to do many water changes and maintenance until that happens.
      Andrea
      Koi Health Care Committee Member



    9. #9
      duchoaaz is offline Junior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      Feeling:
      ----
       
      Join Date
      Aug 2016
      Location
      Upstate NY
      Posts
      11
      So Proform-c is arrived. I'm doing the shotgun treatment as OCKoiFan recommended. It is on 3rd day of Proform-c now. I'll keep my eyes on the fish.

      Thank you all for your inputs.

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •