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    Thread: Modern SoCal Architectural Koi Pond Design and Construction Thread

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      4ft all the way around would look good with big koi on the move



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      I am a little late to this party....But I have real concerns about your depth because of raccoons....I am also coastal Calif..I have a raccoons EVERY night....The way I designed my koi pond, and the depth, keep the coons out (since I knew we had a coon problem)...But my original pond (which I still have) was only 18 inches deep and had 5 to 6 inch goldfish in it....The raccoons ate all the fish in two nights..Then we put a electric fence around it....No more missing fish (15 years now)...I have it set on a timer...comes on at dusk and off at 7 AM. It is just one thin wire, about 8-9 inches from the pond edge...Too low for them to go under and too high to go over.....

      Just my thoughts, and maybe a idea you to think about....If you build it (pond) they WILL come (raccoons).....
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      I have a family of four raccoons, the worst part was when they dug up a dead fish that I buried in the garden , and washed it off in the pond before eating it

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      Quote Originally Posted by icu2 View Post
      Glad you might be on the track to going deeper and more volume.

      Personally I've not seen much advantage to a sloped floor. In water there seems to be very little gravity
      effect on debris to roll down hill. By the time algae grows on the surface of the floor I see more movement
      from the fish stirring things up and currents moving it towards the exit points.
      If it were mine and you get the go ahead on more depth, I'd make the whole thing the same depth.
      Obviously I don't know the viewing angles from your house, but on mine I can either seem them or I can't
      but what blocks my view is the angle from the house to the pond (about 20'). The 2' depth wouldn't make much
      difference and won't keep them any nearer the surface.

      Thank you. When they did the foundation work they did so with the assumption that the pond could be up to 4’ deep, so luckily I should be able to make something work!

      Quote Originally Posted by delbert View Post
      4ft all the way around would look good with big koi on the move
      Thanks—I’m starting to like this idea, too!

      Quote Originally Posted by fairlady View Post
      I am a little late to this party....But I have real concerns about your depth because of raccoons....I am also coastal Calif..I have a raccoons EVERY night....The way I designed my koi pond, and the depth, keep the coons out (since I knew we had a coon problem)...But my original pond (which I still have) was only 18 inches deep and had 5 to 6 inch goldfish in it....The raccoons ate all the fish in two nights..Then we put a electric fence around it....No more missing fish (15 years now)...I have it set on a timer...comes on at dusk and off at 7 AM. It is just one thin wire, about 8-9 inches from the pond edge...Too low for them to go under and too high to go over.....

      Just my thoughts, and maybe a idea you to think about....If you build it (pond) they WILL come (raccoons).....
      We were originally told that this pond/water feature had to be 18” max depth, but it’s looking like we may be getting additional depth after all per my architect. I would always regret not going deeper if I found out that I could. Sorry to hear of your travails!

      Quote Originally Posted by catfish whiskers View Post
      I have a family of four raccoons, the worst part was when they dug up a dead fish that I buried in the garden , and washed it off in the pond before eating it
      That’s just plain rude of those trash pandas!

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      I'm new on this site- Is there a way to tag this discussion?
      I want to see this house finished!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Flatland11 View Post
      I'm new on this site- Is there a way to tag this discussion?
      I want to see this house finished!
      At the top of the thread look for "Thread Tools" and pick "Subscribe to this thread..." and then
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      House is moving along, and we hope to get started on the pond soon. The city has agreed that we can go deeper, which is wonderful. Planning to have 3ft of water depth throughout. Waiting on a project bid from someone you all would recognize. Hopeful that it will work out!

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      If we recognize the name, he/she will want you to go deeper than 3 ft.....

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      With that big eucalyptus tree not far away, any special methods of dealing with the extremely invasive roots?

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      Quote Originally Posted by kimini View Post
      With that big eucalyptus tree not far away, any special methods of dealing with the extremely invasive roots?
      It’s actually up a 15-foot slope and right up against a neighbor’s house (called “The Treehouse,” apparently. She has several monster eucalyptus. From what I know of those trees, 90% of their roots are in the top 12” of soil, so I’m more worried about them blowing over or dropping limbs on us than anything else.

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      I thought that treehouse looked a little like my deer stand



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      Quote Originally Posted by delbert View Post
      I thought that treehouse looked a little like my deer stand
      Ha, yes!

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      As a So. Cal resident, can confirm that trash pandas, heron, hawks, etc will try to eat your fish every day/night. I had 2 pond builds before my current poured concrete pond. 18" deep; everything was eaten very quickly. 24", everything was eaten very quickly. so I pushed it to a concrete pond with straight walls down 4'6". Haven't lost a fish since putting them in the new pond (knock on wood). Go deeper if you can, and I wouldn't give raccoons any sloped ground to wade into the deep end on - 4'+ all the way across. Concrete ponds are much more permanent, so try to overkill and do it right now. Also, Im a contractor in the So. Cal area, just PM me if you need any subcontractor referrals or material questions. Xypex is a great choice btw.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ubiquitous View Post
      Haven't lost a fish since putting them in the new pond (knock on wood). Go deeper ...
      Thanks for sharing your experience. How long has it been since you went deeper (with no losses)?

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      Quote Originally Posted by John P. View Post
      Thanks for sharing your experience. How long has it been since you went deeper (with no losses)?
      Just about 18 months.

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      Eucalypts aren't much different than other trees. Most trees don't have many roots below 24”. It's a matter of oxygen availability. The tree roots will colonize moist soil until it runs out of oxygen. The heavier the soil and the irrigation, the shallower the oxygen zone will be. Eucalypts should not be irrigated in the summer for root health. If they don't water it, I wouldn't worry too much about the roots. Top growth snapping off in high winds. That can definitely be a problem but that one looks like it has been reduced quite a bit over the years to manage that.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nil13 View Post
      Eucalypts aren't much different than other trees. Most trees don't have many roots below 24”. It's a matter of oxygen availability. The tree roots will colonize moist soil until it runs out of oxygen. The heavier the soil and the irrigation, the shallower the oxygen zone will be. Eucalypts should not be irrigated in the summer for root health. If they don't water it, I wouldn't worry too much about the roots. Top growth snapping off in high winds. That can definitely be a problem but that one looks like it has been reduced quite a bit over the years to manage that.
      Thanks for the info!

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      Koi pond permit pulled ... looking to begin in November!

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