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    Thread: New development

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      New development

      Hi all
      Our koi are all about 6 years old and this year one of them with a spotted back (? normal coloring or abnormal pattern) has developed a mass on its lower lip.
      We are in February in western NC but temps have been unusually warm for the entire month and the fish are being fed.
      I have not done recent water testing. Although I have koi I don't know a great deal and asking for help. I do not want the fish to be suffering.

      I have attached photos which I think show the mass on the lower lip fairly well.
      If there are other conditions I need to specify, please advise.
      Thank you for your time and knowledge.

      Lynn
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      From the angle of the pictures, is the fish eating? If so, what I am seeing appears to be more like a broken jaw, if it is always like that. The mouth opens somewhat downward on koi, and that area will extend outward during feeding, though usually not quite that much. I don't see anything that will impair feeding, and definitely nothing infected. If it truly is a growth, we will need pictures from different angle, like when it is trying to get a pellet during feeding.

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      Fish not eating during this shot

      Thanks so much for your reply. Although this fish is eating food during the warm weather, it wasn't eating during this photo shot. The protrusion from the lower lip is new and not just visible when eating.
      It appears swollen to me but since I have not examined any fish closely
      I do not really know.
      Could it be a tumor or infection?
      I will get more photos from other views.
      Thank you
      Lynn

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      From the angle of the pictures, is the fish eating? If so, what I am seeing appears to be more like a broken jaw, if it is always like that. The mouth opens somewhat downward on koi, and that area will extend outward during feeding, though usually not quite that much. I don't see anything that will impair feeding, and definitely nothing infected. If it truly is a growth, we will need pictures from different angle, like when it is trying to get a pellet during feeding.

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      Without other pictures, I see no indication of tumor or infection, though anything is possible.

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      Looks like the jaw is just locked open.
      Last edited by kdh; 03-01-2018 at 11:09 AM.

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      Yup, looks like a jaw problem. Catch it, sedate, open the mouth real wide and push the jaw back in. I use to have a doitsu that protrudes the left side of her jaw once in a while after eating.
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      Agree on jaw. Sometimes after you correct it (as instructed above), it stays. Sometimes it continues to pop out and stays that way no matter how many times you correct it. I have one who figured out how to eat and manage just fine like that permanently.
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