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      Quote Originally Posted by mjfromga View Post
      I don't know. Even in very cold temps, my fish don't actually lay on the bottom. ONE fish did that, but it is a small and weak one. I don't count it as normal for the fish to actually lay with their belly on the bottom. With that said, I have goldfish and not Koi so I'm not sure if it's typical or not. In the wild, it makes no sense that the fish would lay on the bottoms and develop sores. Goes against nature.
      in the wild fish often find deeper areas that stay warmer than the shallows. I'm a pond 5 feet deep it it is a little different. i like to refer to our ponds as more artificial ponds and nothing like natural ponds

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      Also, Goldfish seem to cope better with the cold water, well they do here in England. In the Spring I had Koi and Goldfish in the pond and at temps in the 40’s, the Goldfish were a lot more active. The general consensus here seems to be that they are hardier.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Essex Koi View Post
      Also, Goldfish seem to cope better with the cold water, well they do here in England. In the Spring I had Koi and Goldfish in the pond and at temps in the 40’s, the Goldfish were a lot more active. The general consensus here seems to be that they are hardier.
      they are. that's why many start here with a goldfish or 2 to get a new pond started.

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      Ah. Well that makes sense then. I don't have regular goldfish though, I've got the fat fancy kind. Still, I would worry if they actually laid on the bottom. But I get that Koi are different.

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      We moved our inherited goldfish to the pond at the school where my wife works, luckily they have a large pond, roughly 25,000 Gallons, which had unfortunately been decimated by Herons. So 60 goldfish went over in July and just before Xmas, my wife said they were all darting around in temps of approx 45f. The pond is full of underwater plants and they seem pretty happy / active in there, although they are not being fed.
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      Essex Koi, I invite you to check out the Certified Koi Keeper program offered by Koi Organisation International. It is a nine-course series covering many different facets of koi keeping, all with solid scientific research behind it. We have a thread going about the current scholarship we are offering: http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showth...olarship-Offer -- the offer ends tonight but the program is always available. Pm me for details or visit www.koiorganisationinternational.com.
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      Thanks, but as I’m in England, can’t see how I could do it anyway.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Essex Koi View Post
      Thanks, but as I’m in England, can’t see how I could do it anyway.
      doesn't matter where on the map you are. it is a very extensive course and requires alot of commenting also

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      Quote Originally Posted by Essex Koi View Post
      I read up in Bakki Showers / Bakki Rivers, but havenít looked to implement. Also Anoxic Filtration, which seems to garner strong opinions for and against.

      I looked at this as it would fit nicely along one ledge on my pond and with the added space for plants, would look nice too, but was told it was silly and wouldnít work...

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      Essex ? Got a well? How deep ? (some know whats coming already)
      Open system. I know a lil about those ;-)
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      No well I’m afraid, my old place did have one - which is pretty rare here in the UK...although we didn’t know about it for 3 years until I basically walked over a manhole cover that gave way and I went into it waist deep....!

      If I had one here, I’d basically run a trickle system that puts in a lot more fresh water than I do currently. The water here is metered, so currently I’m paying about £80-100 a month for the pond, changing between 1000 -1500 gallons a week on average.
      Main pond 4000 US Gallon, 22 Koi. Oase Proficlear Premium + Bio Module, Bitron 120 w UVC, Bakki Shower, Dura 7+ ashp. Grow on tank 600 Gallons with Eazypod Automatic and 70 litre K1 biochamber.

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      Bummer. that'd be great there for full control of the water year round. Let up on the food and slow the ground water for a few months then kick it open in March-April and be ahead of them as it got hot(er).
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      Thanks, Pond is heated in any case, currently at 69f earlier this evening when I checked.
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      Iol. you are fine without a well and keep doing what you are doing.

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