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      Hoshikin kohaku

      Hello guy, just added a new member to my pond. Let me know what you guy think about her. She is a 4 years old 25 inches female hoshikin kohaku.
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      Are you sure that its female?
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      :I CAN'T BRING THIS SHIP INTO TRTUGA ALL BY ME ONESIES, SAVVY?:

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      I was wondering the same thing!
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      Yellow shiro, male body on a female Koi, but still a cool Kohaku in the pond.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Christian B View Post
      Yellow shiro, male body on a female Koi, but still a cool Kohaku in the pond.
      I kinda thought this as well. yellow is apparent in head section. seems female in some perspective but seems a male body. may be the sex experts need to see tail tube

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      What has the tail tube got to do with the sex of the fish? Is this some new way to diagnose sex over the net?lol
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      Quote Originally Posted by koiman1950 View Post
      What has the tail tube got to do with the sex of the fish? Is this some new way to diagnose sex over the net?lol
      Yep. Girls have nicer tails.

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      That is what the certificate said I believe
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      I meant vent tube. my phone corrects everything

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      It looks female to me and there is no yellow on this Koi, just off white skin.
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      How does the shiro look like in real?
      I thought it looked like kind of lemon yellow in some parts?
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      That is simply a certificate verifying it's origin. I have one from Hoshikin as well and it says nothing about sex. If it did, it would be in English as others are. See the one from Dainichi on the right upper corner states "female". that means the breeder guarantees it's sex. Hoshikin does not.
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      The certificate says "mesu" in Japanese, which means female.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      I meant vent tube. my phone corrects everything
      "Tail" and "vent" are interchangeable words on a cell phone? Wouldn't have seen that one coming from Tokyo let alone Brentwood!lol
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      Good to have facit.
      Its a Female Koi, looks Female and its got offwhite skin.
      How about show quality?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Christian B View Post
      Good to have facit.
      Its a Female Koi, looks Female and its got offwhite skin.
      How about show quality?
      This is, in my opinion, a good future show quality Koi. These are the type I would buy. Excellent body, skin and pattern for the future.
      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Quote Originally Posted by koiman1950 View Post
      That is simply a certificate verifying it's origin. I have one from Hoshikin as well and it says nothing about sex. If it did, it would be in English as others are. See the one from Dainichi on the right upper corner states "female". that means the breeder guarantees it's sex. Hoshikin does not.
      This is just not the case. Hoshikin wrote female in Katakana. The first character is 'me' and the second is 'su' which means female. I have been studying Japanese for a little over a year and the language has three types of written characters. Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji. I have learned all of the Hiragana characters and am now working on Katakana. Kanji is over 3,000 characters so I won't be doing those.
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      people like to vehemently defend their purchases and find it incredulous that anything could be better

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      Quote Originally Posted by Russell Peters View Post
      This is, in my opinion, a good future show quality Koi. These are the type I would buy. Excellent body, skin and pattern for the future.
      Of Course Russel, and me My self think this is a cool Koi, but now im curious about Your judgement...
      Do you think its a different between breeders photo and the owners pictures?
      Why is the skin excellent? How could two old Koi veterans like you and Mike judge body that different?
      I prefer snow white shiro, this shiro (the off white, egg white) doesnt look fresh. But a PRO like you says that doesnt really matters.
      Im pushing this because i want to learn why?
      Whats on Your mind then you judgeing Koi.
      Thanks.

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      I never mentioned the skin tone/color but it's not an issue. It could have to do with time of year, food being fed, etc. I don't know what happened to the post I made about the Japanese symbols but after re-looking at the two certs, I see line two matched the characters on the Dainichi cert where it also states "female" in English. Even breeders can make mistakes, even if they are guaranteeing the sex. I would think at this age, the body would appear to be shaped differently especially in the mid-section. While I have seen/do own a couple fish with a "male" type conformation, I'll still take a wait and see approach on future pics. I never said it was male for sure, simply agreed with Rain's thought about it.
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      Thanks Mike for Your answer.
      Sometimes "Koi questions" can look look really stupid, "like who gives a ..." but this digging gives (at least me) more knowledge.

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