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    Thread: New 3 tosai for 2017 grow out

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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post

      Wow new car congrats bro
      company commute car but I work for my parents so pretty much will be my car. thanks bro. the 99 altima broke the timing chain so was time to move on lol

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      Okay I know you bored so an update vid on the Shiro Utsuri for you Kevin
      This dude is not growing the way I want him to but I need to concentrate on black and white until the contest day

      https://youtu.be/nsglLwyaiEs
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      Look pretty nice Mitch! How big is it now?

      fyi.. I am not bored. It's fun and nice to see progress pics like and it gives rookie like me an opportunity to learn!

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      Prob 18”
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      I like it. Nice shiro and sumi.

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      Thank you guys
      This koi was moved back to my main pond for about 3weeks and barely eating anything. This does help for the sumi to tighten and shiroji to improve. I will bring it back into the inside tank in a week to see if I can bulk the body a bit more. And I will have a last update on all of them @ contest
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      Measured today
      Tancho 16.5”
      Kohaku 18.5”
      Shiro 18.5”

      Now I think they ready for some wheat germ to clean up the shiroji
      Anyone have better way to help a better white ground on them?

      Slow motion
      https://youtu.be/IW0LQHzOvmw

      Regular
      https://youtu.be/s7F3EKWGSUw
      Last edited by OCkoiFan; 03-19-2018 at 02:31 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      Measured today
      Tancho 16.5”
      Kohaku 18.5”
      Shiro 18.5”

      Now I think they ready for some wheat germ to clean up the shiroji
      Anyone have better way to help a better white ground on them?

      https://youtu.be/IW0LQHzOvmw
      I have had good luck with using koi clay in paste food along with Vit E, Vit C and chitosan. I used powdered vitamins and the chitosan comes in capsules that you have to open them to add. About 1 tablespoon of clay to 1 lb food, a teaspoon of each vitamin and 1/2 teaspoon of the chitosan. And lots of water changes.
      Still learning as I go but y'all can call me Marilyn

      I'll say something when I feel I have something worth saying. I'm not a fan of flapping my lips just because they are there.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
      I have had good luck with using koi clay in paste food along with Vit E, Vit C and chitosan. I used powdered vitamins and the chitosan comes in capsules that you have to open them to add. About 1 tablespoon of clay to 1 lb food, a teaspoon of each vitamin and 1/2 teaspoon of the chitosan. And lots of water changes.
      Wow that’s show a real koichichi you are Marilyn

      My wife would scream out if I do this “ you never cook for me!”

      Yes I plan to do more frequent WC and mix some tomigai tategoi/wg
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      One end of my kitchen counter was designated as the koi zone.
      You know you're kichi when the koi have their own coffee grinder for making their food.

      I still lament the loss of a koi food that EA made years ago. When I started in the hobby, their base food called EA Health was absolutely superb for shiroji. I was new in the hobby and just happened to start with that food. The koi took to it well, knowledgeable koi hobbyists constantly commended me on the skin quality of my koi. When that food was no longer made, show prep became a lot more challenging.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Marilyn View Post
      I have had good luck with using koi clay in paste food along with Vit E, Vit C and chitosan. I used powdered vitamins and the chitosan comes in capsules that you have to open them to add. About 1 tablespoon of clay to 1 lb food, a teaspoon of each vitamin and 1/2 teaspoon of the chitosan. And lots of water changes.
      Mariyln, I've got a few questions if you don't mind:
      1. Do you do this in addition to feeding a wheat germ-based food?
      2. Do you moisten the pellets before applying the mixed powder to them to then feed?
      3. Is this a long-term solution to brighten whites, or something to be used for a shorter duration (i.e. show prep)? I've heard koi clay may raise GH if dosed consistently - does this become an issue?

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      Yes I’ve heard EA and the FD ....
      I wonder what is the best on the market nowaday
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      Quote Originally Posted by Euryth View Post
      Mariyln, I've got a few questions if you don't mind:
      1. Do you do this in addition to feeding a wheat germ-based food?
      2. Do you moisten the pellets before applying the mixed powder to them to then feed?
      3. Is this a long-term solution to brighten whites, or something to be used for a shorter duration (i.e. show prep)? I've heard koi clay may raise GH if dosed consistently - does this become an issue?
      No problem!
      The chitosan was pretty much the only thing that I didn't do regularly and was primarily for show prep roughly two months prior to a show.

      1) Find a food that works well with your koi and water. When EA went away I tried a bunch of foods but I settled on Hikari and Saki Hikari. As I recall, the Hikari was wheatgerm based.

      2) You can moisten the pellets and toss them in the clay. One way to do this is to use a tupperware type container with a lid. Add enough water to get the pellets moist but not to the point of mush. If you add the water and kind of roll the container around in your hands, all the pellets will get some water and become damp. Pour this into a bowl and drop in the clay, toss the pellets around in it. With practice, you'll find the right amount. Start with less water, you can always add more.
      I typically made paste food by grinding up a lb of food, adding the vitamins and such, then adding enough water to make it the texture of play dough. Do this in a ziplock baggie because you can work it around more easily. Refrigerate it for about 30 minutes, then it should be ready to go. I would take a bag out and just break off bite size bits to throw in. It was my Zen time with the koi.

      3) I didn't do it just for the whites, it was also to help with their digestion and overall health. Supposedly it cleans the toxins from organs which is why the whites get whiter.
      It's really not that much clay and it wasn't an issue for my GH low water. I didn't worry about that.

      Basically, if you can do it (because areas like California make it challenging), a steady influx of fresh water goes a long way to improving skin quality, color and health. Make sure you don't do this with chlorine or chloramine water unless it's filtered through the appropriate carbon filter.
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      Still learning as I go but y'all can call me Marilyn

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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      Yes I’ve heard EA and the FD ....
      I wonder what is the best on the market nowaday
      Don't go there.
      Still learning as I go but y'all can call me Marilyn

      I'll say something when I feel I have something worth saying. I'm not a fan of flapping my lips just because they are there.

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      Quote Originally Posted by OCkoiFan View Post
      Measured today
      Tancho 16.5”
      Kohaku 18.5”
      Shiro 18.5”

      Now I think they ready for some wheat germ to clean up the shiroji
      Anyone have better way to help a better white ground on them?

      Slow motion
      https://youtu.be/IW0LQHzOvmw

      Regular
      https://youtu.be/s7F3EKWGSUw
      That's pretty good growth. You did well picking and raising them. Who is the breeder of the kohaku? Good luck in the GO competition.

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      Quote Originally Posted by abuchi123 View Post
      That's pretty good growth. You did well picking and raising them. Who is the breeder of the kohaku? Good luck in the GO competition.
      SFF on both tancho and kohaku

      Omosako Shiro Utsuri

      Thanks bro
      But I’ve heard we got real competition this year
      Someone else koi already surpass the 20” mark couple months ago

      I notice the kohaku has 3 rows of gin scale/ could this be matsunosuke gin? But this is Sakai not INC
      Last edited by OCkoiFan; 03-19-2018 at 05:48 PM.
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      Matsunosuke Gin shows up on a lot of koi.
      This is a Rose line SFF Sanke that I had. Pardon the very unflattering winter pic.

      Still learning as I go but y'all can call me Marilyn

      I'll say something when I feel I have something worth saying. I'm not a fan of flapping my lips just because they are there.

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      Oh I see
      I though that was more like a “patent” from INC
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      I talked with Michael of tomagai and he swears by tategoi for improving the whites. I've been using saki growth all season and beginning to rethink this. I wish I remembered more about the different foods he produced etc, but had a few beers in me already. He also did say saki hikari was good food also.

      The tategoi seems to have vitamin E as Marilyn mentioned but I don't see vitamin c is there.
      Last edited by kevin32; 03-19-2018 at 07:44 PM.

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      Ahhh thanks God Kevin is here
      Yes used it last year and this is the spoiled leftover
      Ya know I just can’t afford large expensive bag
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