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    Thread: Tancho Showa X Platinum Ogon 2017 Spawn

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      2 weeks old and some of them have black specs/areas, are these considered sanke since they werent born black, or showa since the parents are showa?

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      The babies all have some black on them. Biggest ones are maybe half an inch? Have had to do 2 total water changes today and yesterday due to decaying brine shrimp eggs ammonia spikes. Heres a pic of whats left of the herd.
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      Better pic of one of them. I definitely think they will turn out metallic, they look very shiny on their sides.
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      They are lookin' healthy, having thickened up a good bit. You may have a mix of varieties there when all is said and done. Being that showa were used in the spawning, it may be a few weeks before the colors start to appear in a way that gives you a good idea how they will turn out. I look forward to seeing that. And they can still change a good bit in the months after that.

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      [QUOTE=KOIAndrew;2612337]2 weeks old and some of them have black specs/areas, are these considered sanke since they werent born black, or showa since the parents are showa?[/QUOTE


      Shiro Utsuri & Hi Utsuri are real common Showa fry

      They look good and healthy , Andrew

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      After being reduced to 4 babies, 2 of which have deformites i think (mom wont let me cull them yet :/ ) they spawned again and i have another 30-40 babies.

      I lost alot due to the bigger ones eating small ones, i didnt think there was that big of a size difference yet....

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      Quote Originally Posted by KOIAndrew View Post
      ... they spawned again and i have another 30-40 babies.

      I lost alot due to the bigger ones eating small ones, i didnt think there was that big of a size difference yet....
      Yeah, that can sure happen. Once I saw an unusually large 8-day-old fry swimming with the tail of a sibling sticking out of its mouth. I think it is pretty uncommon for it to get started that early though. Good luck with the new batch.

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      So update, new babies are doing great, one of them (picutred below) already looks like an actual fish! I decided to put the larger babies outside and they sure did take off compared to the smaller ones inside.
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      My guess is this is a baby metallic Hi-utsuri?

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      Quote Originally Posted by KOIAndrew View Post
      ... My guess is this is a baby metallic Hi-utsuri?
      Maybe, or perhaps a kin showa if some white shows up. I guess both batches of fry are from the same 3 parent koi?

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      5 weeks old and about 2.5 - 3inches! This is the biggest of the batch, the rest are about 2/3rds his size. But ever since i let them outside, they have flourished!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Matt24 View Post
      Maybe, or perhaps a kin showa if some white shows up. I guess both batches of fry are from the same 3 parent koi?
      Yea they are.

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      That one is looking good Andrew, thick build. Looking like a kin showa.

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      Im not exactly sure what my babies are, as none of them were born black and one of the parents is actually a bekko. What would these be considered? I made a post in the please judge my mutt section of the fourm if you want to see update pics. the biggest one (pictured above) is close to 5inches at 6months old!

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      Those look like very good results considering how different the parents are. I think #6 looks good, like a kin showa, except that the sumi is more of a spot patern than bands like a showa. I am not familiar with any variety being called "kin sanke", but I wonder if that is what that one would be called.

      Most seem to have the hikari shine from the platinum female parent. The sumi patterns vary. Some are more of a showa/utsuri layout, and some are more of a sanke/bekko layout or a mix. Number 2, 7, & 10 aren't bad either. Nice work Andrew.

      Here is the link to the pictures:
      https://www.koiphen.com/forums/showth...he-6month-olds

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      Best 2 so far. The larger one I like the white but the speckled beni seems to be staying. On the smaller, the beni is falling apart, however if it continues it will make a nice black/white koi IMO.

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      They're lookin' good Andrew, and have a nice shine.

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