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    Thread: What fish go well with koi?

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      What fish go well with koi?

      Hi, im looking to put some other fish in with my koi! My question is... What can i put in there with them? I would LOVE to put wild carp in there but that would most likely introduce parasites! So besides goldfish (which arent my favorite) and comets (already have 2) what can i put in there?

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      I have some Pleco in the pond and they get along just fine. There is enough to eat on the walls and floor that they leave the Koi alone. Occasionally I find them swimming upside down on the surface trying to get a piece of food during a feeding.



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      Catfish said do the algea cleaning well.

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      Be careful, I have read of plecostomus killing koi. There may be a thread or teo on this, members finding otherwise heslthy koi, eith huge sucker marks on them, dead. Also, depending upon your water temps in winter, you will have to pull them out in the fall/winter, has they are tropical. I'm not sure about the weather in GA, but I know here in MI, they would die!

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      My pond is sorta small... compared to most... its 8x9ft at its longest points and almost 2ft deep.. so rather small. It gets "cold" here.. well atleast for me but winter days are like 40-50 degrees Fahrenheit, i dont know about the water.. all i know is it gets cold enough for my koi to not eat/just sit there.

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      Personally, I think Koi go best with Koi. You've read some of the issues with other kinds of fish housed with koi. And with goldfish, (comets are just another goldfish), they live well together, but some of the preferred parasite treatments for koi can harm goldfish. If your pond is smallish, I'd either stay with koi only, and just a few, (they grow quite large you know. ), or go with goldfish. IMHO.
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      And anything you add will have to be quarantined. How many gallons because koi and goldfish grow quickly and goldfish multiply.

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      around 600-7000gallons

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      I imagine a typo? Big difference between 600 and 7000 gallons! If 6000-7000, no problem; 600-700 don't add more than 2-3 koi, and work really hard to keep the water prisitine. I have 4 koi in 1800 gallons, in addition to their babies. The four big ones are waaaay too big for the pond size I have. I am constantly cleaning and doing water changes. With the babies, it's just added waste.







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      8 x 9 x2 would be around 1000 gallons, very small size limitation. I was going to suggest sturgeonlets if you didn't get to hot in the summer but that would be way to small for a sturgeon. small ones still can get 4' long, but like Koi they have no teeth, they feed well, like cool water, can handle winter no problem, need a LOT of oxygen so if you provide it for them then it benefits the koi and the Biomass in the filter.

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      A pond that is only 2 feet deep in Georgia is a problem despite what the volume is, because the water temperature will be too high in the summer. With a pond that shallow, goldfish, rosie reds (Pimephales promelas), and mosquito fish (Gambusia affinis) are the best choices.

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      My last pond was only 1 foot deep! lol! and they survived just fine.

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      You are one lucky guy! Twelve inches is a recipe for disaster in most any region of this country simply because of the shock of temperature change up and down and usually coupled with the subsequent loss of oxygen......

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      Well, i did loose some fish with a foot deep water... but it was due to adding 3 new fish (already had 6 in a 7x3 pond) and a turtle as well... then i had a ammonia disaster but was just fine with the 3 i had in it afterwards. only problem is i had to clean the pump every single day.... literally!

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      I have several dozen gambusia 'mosquito fish' in my pond to take care of housekeeping, the eat any food that the koi don't get and also eat mosquito larvae and other water bugs. Ive never had any problem with them. They are too small to be any threat to the koi and likewise, the koi don't eat them. Ive actually seen a koi gulp one and then spit it right back out.

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      I have 3 shubunkins (goldfish) and 2 albino channel catfish, along with approximately 20 koi in 10000 gallons. They all get along well and the catfish even come and feed up top with the others. However I am going to rehome the goldfish as they have bred and now I have several baby goldfish to remove in the spring.

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      With 1000 gallons you are very limited. I wouldn't do more than a few Koi. If you're adding more fish than that you could add some goldfish, but I still would take it easy on how many you add.

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