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      Tiny pepper Like Dots

      I have noticed that some of the fish on their head have tiny pepper like dots..These are nor shimi's..You can see them real good on my Yamabuki Any ideas??
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      I found this? BLACK SPOT
      Black spot appears as tiny black spots all over the body, just as the name suggests. These black spots are actualy the cysts of a fluke which lives in the intestines of various birds. The eggs of the flukes pass to the pond via the faeces where they hatch and infest snails. From here they progress to other fish within the pond burying themselves into the other layer of skin forming a black casing around themselves. As the fish within the pond enviroment are the host carriers for the flukes, they don't cause much harm to the fish. If the koi are eaten by birds, the cycle is complete and will start again.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CrazyKoiWoman69 View Post
      I found this? BLACK SPOT
      Black spot appears as tiny black spots all over the body, just as the name suggests. These black spots are actualy the cysts of a fluke which lives in the intestines of various birds. The eggs of the flukes pass to the pond via the faeces where they hatch and infest snails. From here they progress to other fish within the pond burying themselves into the other layer of skin forming a black casing around themselves. As the fish within the pond enviroment are the host carriers for the flukes, they don't cause much harm to the fish. If the koi are eaten by birds, the cycle is complete and will start again.
      We have had birds and koi for years and I have never seen this..This Spring has been a nightmare for them..
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      Here is a pic of what I mean..The dots are sure lined up..Name:  005 - Copy.JPG
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      are they black? those look like tiny holes. Odd that its lined up. Check in and around the pond see if there is anything that size that would leave holes or spots like that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CrazyKoiWoman69 View Post
      are they black? those look like tiny holes. Odd that its lined up.
      They are black when looking at the fish in the water..
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      Can you catch him/her and see if its holes?
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      I have felt them and they are not holes..Its on more than one fish to..
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      I wish I could get a closer look but Im blind as a bat
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      Well Im not sure what they could be but as long as the fish are eating and stuff I would say keep an eye on them see if it spreads. Or maybe do a scrape and scope to see them up close. Wish I could be more help.
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      Check the gill plates...are they there too? Wonder if they are breeding tubercles on your male koi.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ademink View Post
      Check the gill plates...are they there too? Wonder if they are breeding tubercles on your male koi.

      Whats odd is my female kois back of gill plate toward the body are kinda rough and they are female but these dots are also on my males..What is " breeding tubercles" ??

      I don't see any on gill plate but they won't hold still to long
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      They are little raised dots that the male gets on his head, gill plates and pectoral fins (not always ALL areas) during mating time. They normally look like white dots or almost like holes or pores (which yours DO look like in the pic...not black...but you can see best in-person).

      Oops..didn't finish. The males uses these to nudge the female to get her to release eggs.
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      whens the last time you checked water quality?
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      Can you give current water parameters please?
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      Quote Originally Posted by ademink View Post
      They are little raised dots that the male gets on his head, gill plates and pectoral fins (not always ALL areas) during mating time. They normally look like white dots or almost like holes or pores (which yours DO look like in the pic...not black...but you can see best in-person).

      Oops..didn't finish. The males uses these to nudge the female to get her to release eggs.
      Yes but the fish I posted is a female..

      water temp 61
      ph-8.3
      KH-8 drops or 143
      AM-0
      Nitrite-0
      Nitrate-0
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      It could also be a defect called shimi but I doubt it since its on all the fish.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ademink View Post
      Can you give current water parameters please?

      water temp 61
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      KH-8 drops or 143
      AM-0
      Nitrite-0
      Nitrate-0
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      Odd that your nitrate is zero....wondering how that can be if your ammonia and nitrite are 0....
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      Quote Originally Posted by ademink View Post
      Odd that your nitrate is zero....wondering how that can be if your ammonia and nitrite are 0....
      I think its odd we went from a small amount of AM to 0 everything but Hubby says AP Test is good 2018
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