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    Thread: Need help/ideas on sand gravel filter please

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      Question Need help/ideas on sand gravel filter please

      Hi all,
      First time poster, long time creeper here.
      I am needing a little help on two filters I am making. I'm doing two Kent Wallace filters. (Learned a lot on his and birdman's threads, thanks!)

      The only decent barrels in my area are olive barrels, but these ones are quite nice and thick. That being said, they have the thread on lids. So I cant use the tops as a means of suspending the rock.

      Can anyone chime in with something that I can cut to size? I'm hoping to go cheap. No one carries the kennel floor grating that birdman uses. What lexan I've found is thin/expensive. I was thinking plastic pallet, but even they seem hard to find.

      Any help is appreciated much.
      Thanks!
      Matt

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      I used a deer feeder screen, they are about $15.00 or less if you can find them locally, I got mine from, http://www.spincastdeerfeeders.com/n...r-screeen.html

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      Pepsi/coke have trays if you can find one. I ran across one at the dump and was going to use it before I found something better to use that they were throwing away at work. Or one of those plastic trays the sometimes take bread/buns around in?

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      Cheryl,
      That is perfect (price too). No dealers any where close to PA though. If I cant find anything else, I will order this, thanks.

      Bryan,
      I've thought of those, but they won't give them up! Thanks though!

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      You can get the kennel grating from Farmtek below

      http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies...;pgha2215.html

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      Quote Originally Posted by mzamatt View Post
      Cheryl,
      That is perfect (price too). No dealers any where close to PA though. If I cant find anything else, I will order this, thanks.

      Bryan,
      I've thought of those, but they won't give them up! Thanks though!
      I was so excited to find these, they are really heavy duty and the only alteration I needed to do to it was to make a hole in the center for the air manifold pipe, fits like a glove! I need to order two more!

      Cheryl
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      Hi ghoitt,
      Thanks for the link. I'm hoping to get something by this weekend. If that doesn't happen, I'll order that or the feeder screen.

      Thanks for all the suggestions so far.
      Any other ideas?

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      Hi, I have the same barrels, I think, mine are 50g olive oil barrels ... I used cut up bread trays from a local store that gave them to me. If your barrels are like mine, below, one of the problems you'll face is that whatever you use, you will have to cut it in half to get it through the narrow opening. You put the two halves in and then squeeze both your arms in to zip tie them back together.

      You have to do the same with your air manifold. Build it in pieces, then do the last couple glue joints once it's inside. Not easy but can be done - I've made four of them this way.
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      Hi Goldie,
      Yes, very similar but more skinny and taller. I have the same one as yours for a rain barrel.

      Thanks for the heads up. I was planning on halfing everything that goes in. You can't cut the tops off of these, because they will weaken considerably at the seams. Now if I could find a nice bread guy...

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      A six pack might help any bread/pepsi/coke person a nice one

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      Do you have a military surplus store there. I got my barrel there. It was food grade and not too expensive.

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      Thanks for all the ideas all. I did end up finding a barrel in my neighbor's old barn, that he was kind enough to give me. Got the filter built Saturday night and it is amazing.

      I have another question now. I've read about folks using shop vacs to blow out their filter. I have a small one and could use an upgrade. Can anyone recommend the optimum size to use on the filter?

      Thanks again in advance!!

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      I just use one I bought at HD for about $20, called buckethead, it works perfect!

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      Thanks. I was looking at that one, but wasn't sure if it had enough power. I'll see if anyone else chimes in.. kinda need a bigger one for around the house anyways.

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      My shop vac is so small it doesn't even have a power rating. Maybe a gallon capacity tank... it doesn't take all that much.
      If you get a larger one, don't just stick the hose on the air pipe and turn 'er on... there are many tales of people launching
      the sand layer everywhere! Cup your hand between the air pipe and the shop vac hose, and then slowly tighten your hand to make a
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      It has plenty of power, I bought it as a dedicated blower because if you use it for vacuuming and then you turn the hose around and use the blower, it will blow dust everywhere. The hose fits perfectly in the 1 1/4" pipe also.

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      Thanks Steve and Cheryl. I may just try the little vac I have now, and save my eighty bucks. Its about the size of the bucket unit.

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      Thanks for all the help all. My tiny vac worked just fine. This filter is great. I can't wait to build another!

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