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      Anyone ever thought about treating the waste with chlorine tablets in a holding tank before going to the yard? Your yard will still be a muddy mess, but at least it won't stink.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Huysy View Post
      Anyone ever thought about treating the waste with chlorine tablets in a holding tank before going to the yard? Your yard will still be a muddy mess, but at least it won't stink.
      i thought of using potassium

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      How much water volume are we talking about each day? I'm wondering if I could handle this with a 4' x 4' x 3' gravel pit covered with mulch and had the waste water drain into that hole. I could occasionally pour bleach or PP into the pit to kill the organics.

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      Quote Originally Posted by audioenvy View Post
      How much water volume are we talking about each day? I'm wondering if I could handle this with a 4' x 4' x 3' gravel pit covered with mulch and had the waste water drain into that hole. I could occasionally pour bleach or PP into the pit to kill the organics.
      A lot of variables come into play and and it should probably have its own thread for that discussion.



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      It all depends on volume of pond, make of RDF, and settings on RDF, etc...but here's my best guess estimate for my pond

      .7 gallons/cycle X 4 cycles/hour X 24 hours/day = 67.2 gallons/day

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      Oops! Sorry for hijacking your thread.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jimfish98 View Post
      A lot of variables come into play and and it should probably have its own thread for that discussion.
      I created a separate thread.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Huysy View Post
      It all depends on volume of pond, make of RDF, and settings on RDF, etc...but here's my best guess estimate for my pond

      .7 gallons/cycle X 4 cycles/hour X 24 hours/day = 67.2 gallons/day

      The DracoDrum only uses maybe 24 fl ounces of water during a 30 second cycle. Once the pond has been running with the RDF for a couple days the cleaning cycle should reduce to every 25-35 minutes, so let average to twice and hour. 16oz x 24hrs x 2 cycles/hr = 1152 fl oz or 9 gallons of water per day.

      People forget that we are talking about a very small RDF here, so not much water is used compared to the larger drums.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zac Penn View Post
      The DracoDrum only uses maybe 24 fl ounces of water during a 30 second cycle. Once the pond has been running with the RDF for a couple days the cleaning cycle should reduce to every 25-35 minutes, so let average to twice and hour. 16oz x 24hrs x 2 cycles/hr = 1152 fl oz or 9 gallons of water per day.

      People forget that we are talking about a very small RDF here, so not much water is used compared to the larger drums.
      You are so optimistic. There is no way I am going to get down to one cycle every 25-30 minutes outside of winter time, lol.

      This beast is removing the issue of sponges clogging and the labor it takes to keep my water nice. I plan to increase my feeding a bit and growing monsters in this pond. Got poop will me more of a statement than a funny slogan.



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      Quote Originally Posted by jimfish98 View Post
      You are so optimistic. There is no way I am going to get down to one cycle every 25-30 minutes outside of winter time, lol.

      This beast is removing the issue of sponges clogging and the labor it takes to keep my water nice. I plan to increase my feeding a bit and growing monsters in this pond. Got poop will me more of a statement than a funny slogan.
      haha i agree. maybe if you had a 65/60 drum lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      haha i agree. maybe if you had a 65/60 drum lol
      Wouldn't happen regardless of what drum.



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      Quote Originally Posted by jimfish98 View Post
      Wouldn't happen regardless of what drum.
      oh. I thought bigger would cycle less. either way during summer feeding mine cycled every 15 mins or less with heavy fish load and feeding.

      you are going to love the rdf even more come spring

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      Quote Originally Posted by kevin32 View Post
      oh. I thought bigger would cycle less. either way during summer feeding mine cycled every 15 mins or less with heavy fish load and feeding.

      you are going to love the rdf even more come spring
      I think what he is getting at, is that no matter what sized RDF he had, he would feed as much as the filtration could handle. Thus having it cycle every 15 minutes or so.
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      I forgot that much of the water bounces of the screen and never goes to waste. So really, I am probably dumping about 20 gallons/ day.


      Quote Originally Posted by Zac Penn View Post
      The DracoDrum only uses maybe 24 fl ounces of water during a 30 second cycle. Once the pond has been running with the RDF for a couple days the cleaning cycle should reduce to every 25-35 minutes, so let average to twice and hour. 16oz x 24hrs x 2 cycles/hr = 1152 fl oz or 9 gallons of water per day.

      People forget that we are talking about a very small RDF here, so not much water is used compared to the larger drums.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jimfish98 View Post
      You are so optimistic. There is no way I am going to get down to one cycle every 25-30 minutes outside of winter time, lol.

      This beast is removing the issue of sponges clogging and the labor it takes to keep my water nice. I plan to increase my feeding a bit and growing monsters in this pond. Got poop will me more of a statement than a funny slogan.
      Agreed on the optimistic. I have noticed a wide variance in cycle times 5min to 30min depending on time of day etc. Heavy feeding during the summer 5 min is standard but at night when feeding stops it will increase. In the winter if I stop feeding it may go several hours without a cycle not sure how long since the timer will only go up to 99 and then it starts showing other weird symbols that I can't decode.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Zac Penn View Post
      I think what he is getting at, is that no matter what sized RDF he had, he would feed as much as the filtration could handle. Thus having it cycle every 15 minutes or so.
      though you might feed as much as the filtration can handle. the rdf will cycle when the screen is getting dirty and will mechanically filter 100 microns or under ..so really now it is up to the biofilter to be up to task per the max feeding he wants I feel. sorry to highjack the thread, but just felt if water is mechanically clean then it is up to the biofilter to uptake ammonia. less ammonia less algae and happy fishy fisher fish lol.

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      So far its doing well. Cycling time varies depending on the koi and their crapping but lately its been going every 18-25 minutes depending on the koi and their feeding. Discharge hose is working well. No noticeable smell or puddles.

      Today I also had a hold put on some new Tamasaba. Kevin at Genki is getting in some from Marushin's new "Super Monster" line. I plan to grow out 6-10 of them in the pond. The last ones I believe were taken out by some large pleco. I removed all but 2-3 of those and plan to remove the rest now that I can see clearly. I may also make room by removing a few koi. I have to get out and measure soon and will make determinations once I see how they have done since the last measure. The removal of those will offset all of the new Tamasaba and make room for one or two new koi in March. Hoping to find a karashigoi but doubtful.



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      Quote Originally Posted by jimfish98 View Post
      So far its doing well. Cycling time varies depending on the koi and their crapping but lately its been going every 18-25 minutes depending on the koi and their feeding. Discharge hose is working well. No noticeable smell or puddles.

      Today I also had a hold put on some new Tamasaba. Kevin at Genki is getting in some from Marushin's new "Super Monster" line. I plan to grow out 6-10 of them in the pond. The last ones I believe were taken out by some large pleco. I removed all but 2-3 of those and plan to remove the rest now that I can see clearly. I may also make room by removing a few koi. I have to get out and measure soon and will make determinations once I see how they have done since the last measure. The removal of those will offset all of the new Tamasaba and make room for one or two new koi in March. Hoping to find a karashigoi but doubtful.
      i better run to genki today then. j/k as I'm way overcrowded. look forward to the tamasaba. would be great to get a karashigoi. Kevin's 32 inch was amazing

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