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      Allinkdup's G/O Tosai

      Here are the babies that were drawn for me....overall...I was pleased with the beginning product.....I am looking forward to working with these guys...I am making some custom food for them this week....we'll see how they do on the food I create.........Billy
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      How did they measure up? The one looks like a beast in comparison to the others.



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      nice group, I like right now the three at the bottom in the last pic the best, That heavy sumi showa is really nice to look at right now. Seems to me though that sumi is the hardest thing to keep. Each showa I have gotten has started fading sumi soon after I added to my pond, my water and their water must be quite different. Good luck and will enjoy seeing how your home made food works on them as well.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jimfish98 View Post
      How did they measure up? The one looks like a beast in comparison to the others.
      Thx guys...to be honest Jim when i put them in the tub it was mainly just to get some pics up...while i was doing a half tub water change in the qt...I got in late today...I haven't had my camera...when i got it ..i couldn't find my charger..gggrrrr....so i used the teenager's for a quick overview.....i left water in the view tub so i could take more in the morning...lol
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      99% sure the big Showa is a female...and the Kohaku at the top of the last pic on the right looks female as well going by the anal slits....the dark Showa has a perpindicular anal slit, but it also has the squinky star winking back at ya....it is confused....pecs look male...we'll see....I am not brave enough to try what i saw Kari Peters post about the guy licking the fish to tell...it all tastes like fish to me...hehe...maybe if someone showed me I would though....for shock value....Billy
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      Quote Originally Posted by fishin4cars View Post
      nice group, I like right now the three at the bottom in the last pic the best, That heavy sumi showa is really nice to look at right now. Seems to me though that sumi is the hardest thing to keep. Each showa I have gotten has started fading sumi soon after I added to my pond, my water and their water must be quite different. Good luck and will enjoy seeing how your home made food works on them as well.
      This makes the second Old School Showa for me...that was the only one i put on my selection list for color/pattern...we have water that is 7.6 outta the ground here...we have a great aquifer of water under Memphis...I have been watching a lot of vids on Y/T about digging your own well...it is against code here but I am going to do it anyway....they'll never know any different as long as it is in my back yard...no utilities back there so the meter reader will never see it...uh huh...uh huh...lol
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      I think you ended up doing very well with the showas in particular. The large one is my personal favorite; it looks like the latent sumi will make a very balanced pattern when it emerges. It will be interesting to see if the mineral content in your well water will boost that.

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      Lol, looks like your Showas are female and Kohakus are male
      It'll be interesting to see how that big Showa develops particularly with that body shape...
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      Quote Originally Posted by rainblood View Post
      Lol, looks like your Showas are female and Kohakus are male
      It'll be interesting to see how that big Showa develops particularly with that body shape...
      Rain, she is actually , in my opinion,a little chubby for her size..i have heard purdin's fish have a tendency to grow in spurts....weight, then length, and then weight again...you get it..I think she'll be big....i'll be watching

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      She's got massive shoulders/head which tapers down pretty sharply to the tail tube.
      I've seen this body shape before on tosai and have always wondered how they developed.
      Your dark Showa is more "normal" shaped.

      I don't follow Purdin but assuming the same gene pool, it'll be an interesting comparison.
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      She has a big head to grow into, lol.



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      The smallest showa looked like it has a crooked right gill plate. I hope there's nothing wrong.

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      Quote Originally Posted by koisan View Post
      The smallest showa looked like it has a crooked right gill plate. I hope there's nothing wrong.
      that was the way it came koisan...I guess it was the luck of the draw that i got that fish...you dont see it in all the pics....kinda surprised Purdin sent it...i heard they cull pretty hard...i like the pattern on the little guy though..you really can't see it as bad in pics 6&9....i will probably end up rehoming it eventually...i will watch it's development to see how the skin, growth, and colors turn out....Billy
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      Quote Originally Posted by Allinkdup View Post
      that was the way it came koisan...I guess it was the luck of the draw that i got that fish...you dont see it in all the pics....kinda surprised Purdin sent it...i heard they cull pretty hard...i like the pattern on the little guy though...i will probably end up rehoming it eventually...i will watch it's development to see how the skin, growth, and colors turn out....Billy
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      I just got home from the oriental market in my neighborhood...I bought dried anchovies and dried shrimp...they will go in the coffee grinder to be turned into meal...I have a 1/2 lb bag of spirulina flakes, 1 lb of fresh crawdads purreed, ground garlic, spinach and other greens, wheat flour, orange juice.....this will be the mix for my baby food...I'm sure i will feed my other fish this as well but it is mainly for the tosai...

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      Quote Originally Posted by jimfish98 View Post
      How did they measure up? The one looks like a beast in comparison to the others.
      the big showa was 11 jim...3 are 9.5", 1 is 9" and 1 is 8"

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      i made up enough "gruel" that has shrimp, anchovies, crayfish,spirulina,wheat flour,honey, garlic powder to get these guys started....baked at 350 for 40 minutes....then chopped up.....kinda like a moist and meaty dog food texture...they love it....i am making the second batch tomorrow with some color enhancer pellets for variety...the third batch will have fresh greens in it.....Billy
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      Quote Originally Posted by fishin4cars View Post
      nice group, I like right now the three at the bottom in the last pic the best, That heavy sumi showa is really nice to look at right now. Seems to me though that sumi is the hardest thing to keep. Each showa I have gotten has started fading sumi soon after I added to my pond, my water and their water must be quite different. Good luck and will enjoy seeing how your home made food works on them as well.
      You would think your water and Purdin's would be kinda close as you are so close to them...maybe not...are you on a well???

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      Great looking school of fish!! That showa with the bent plate might have hope...they're all pretty small right now, and I had a fish with a completely crooked pec fin straighten out as she grew from 2" to 8", can't even notice it now. Just another thing to watch for!

      I like your homemade fish food too, I use gelatin in my mix - will have to try baking it instead sometime.

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