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    Monte's first lower pond.

    Every story needs a beginning:

    Plus Monte needs to figure out his computer.

    Here goes:

    The double lines to the left are the waterfall. The double lines front center and going up right is the flower bed between the pond on the left and the patio on the right. Also the reverse angle from the roof.
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    Nala is one of the local inspectors from up the street.

    She is inspecting the drainage lines for the patio and pond.
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    Monte is cleaning out the trench based on Nala's requirements.

    Even with a backhoe there is always manuel shovel work.
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    After Nala was satisfied with the drainage lines, they could be backfilled.
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    One of the conditions of the pond was the pear tree had to go.

    I have 6 other pear trees of various types and this one never produced very well.
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    This tree was "treebeard' in our 1st "Lord of the rings" (LOTR) party.

    It was to be saved for the 2nd LOTR's party that followed this summer (2009).
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    Hi Monte!

    That looks like a fun project, and should be beautiful!

    I don't know if you've seen the "Triple-Decker Pond at Windsong Acres," but from what you've written so far, it looks like we had to face some of the same issues...one being our desire to dig close to a tree. (First time I wrote, the posts weren't all up yet, so my question here was answered soon after I posted my question). --"I spoke too soon!"

    In our case, we also decided, as it looks like you're thinking about, that since we were trenching anyway, it was a great time to get our gutters from the house going into the underground pipes we were creating and flowing out to the ditch. We also put an "overflow" pipe in the skimmer and joined it to that 4" pvc pipe to the ditch, so that rain that was going to overflow the pond would go out the 2" line and into the 4" instead of just flooding the pond. So far that has worked great. We did a second line to the ditch to assure that roof runoff wouldn't "back up" a single 4" line and go backward into the pond.

    Anyway, what are your thoughts about runoff water during rain? I didn't understand all the lines in the trenches, but it looks like you've been thinking about that issue, too.

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    Several items of note in this photo:

    First my inspectors are back on the job. They both are "new" enough on the job site that I keep them kenneled while running the tractor.

    Nala has lived in the neighborhood (at this time) for 15 years. She still lives today! She stays well away from the tractor. Unless of course she feels her opinion is needed.

    Going from a 120 gallon water feature to a 2870 gallon pond.

    How many errors can you spot in this photo?

    1. The bottom drain was only 2". The skimmer was 1.5' AND the two were tied together in a single circuit. I had planned on alternating between them.

    2. The plant shelf READ: Heron and racoon buffet. Is the dirt space between the the cinder block.

    3. Depth. I thought I had dug deep enough as the tractors hood was near grade. After setting the bottom drain and packing down the bottom. It was barely 3' deep. The shallow end under the waterfall was only 22". Again heron and rack buffet!
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    So this pretty much sums up the filtration:

    A basket strainer to a 1/4 h.p. pump, an Aquadyne 4.4, Aqua 80 watt UV, with a 40L air pump for the 9" BD. All within a 4' X 5' building about 30" above pond level.

    Mistakes Here:

    Hard to prime in string algea season. Because the check valve gets gunked up and leaks back before I can get the lid back on the basket. Of course string algea season was when the basket had to be cleaned most. Sometimes 3X daily! When I was away for a day I had very little flow when I got home.

    #2 Way too much cramped into too small of a space.

    #3 I did not know about sweep elbows. After all, water flows down hill Right?

    #4 I believed manufaturers claims about filtration.
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    Monti,

    How's your upper pond? What's you status on the filter room build out?

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    Hi Jeff: had to take a break for dinner.

    The trenches contain several lines for various tasks.

    4" for surface water and gutter down spouts.
    3" for pond waste.
    1" for domestic supply to yard hydrants and filter pit
    1/2" for shop air.
    Also some power.

    The liner of the pond is actually raised above the patio you have not seen yet. About 40 yards of drain rock and crushed gravel with sand on top for the pavers.

    No problems with water run off.

    Monte

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    Quote Originally Posted by Selenium View Post
    Monti,

    How's your upper pond? What's you status on the filter room build out?
    Hi Dat:

    That is another thread entirely.

    Stop by if you want to, but it is real close.

    Monte

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    Getting back to our story:

    First the hole was lined with old carpet and then the geotex fabric.
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    A month or so laterWater.
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    Must be time for a party.
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    I had read about ensuring that you have enough filtration. In fact according to the manufaturer, I had about three times the filtration for the eventual volumn.

    I also rescued two herds from people moving out of state. This lead to a heavy fish load, something manufacturers often over look when rating equiptment.

    In addition I had a racoon , Heron and duck problem. Thus the netting and chairs.

    I already knew by fall that a redo was in order.
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    A redo would have to wait for summer.
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    So I had all winter to think about a redo and.....................
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    .................and along comes trouble with her boy friend.


    Within a month I had several sick fish.

    Overstocking YES
    Parameters Not bad for spring
    Parasites YES
    Antibiotics Injections and food

    After a month most things had been taken care of or at least I felt I had a handle on them.
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