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    Good thread Steve. Can you give us the overall (outside) dimensions of these containers including cage and pallet please? lxwxh
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    Quote Originally Posted by d.koi View Post
    ... I was also curious about weather or not it matters that it says right on the tube ''not recommended for under water applications"
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    I was worried about the same thing. The stuff Steve showed says right on it
    that it's not recommended for under water... don't believe 'em.
    As long as it's in an application that it'll be "clamped" together, it works great.
    I was also worried about putting water in right away, before the stuff even
    had time to set... again, Steve said "just do it!!" I did, and no leaks what-so-ever!
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    Birdman I have a question for you. My buddy and I are building him a new pond and just got 2 of the totes. I was gone see what you thought about using the 2nd one with kaldness or something similar. What I would do is put an air diffuser for BD's 8" +/- off the bottom to boil the media for bio. I would pull with a 2" from the bottom with a strainer at about 4500-5000 gph back to the pond via tpr's. Maybe use light diffuser so kaldness does not go below the air diffuser. The first tote will connect via 4" with a strainer on the bio side to keep kaldness out of SC. If you can picture all of that how do you think it will work?
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    What I like to do to make a tote fluid bed is put a 3/4 inch threaded bulkhead fitting in the bottom of the tote. The 9" air diffuser will screw into this. This keeps the air diffuser as close to the bottom as possible. For the totes being so large and wanting to use 4" in and out for water flow I like using the Koi Toilet 2 bottom drains with the screen instead of the dome.
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    Want the pump suck air if it goes out there or does the air column stay in the center?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxxreebo1 View Post
    Want the pump suck air if it goes out there or does the air column stay in the center?
    On the outlet line use a Tee, pointing down to the pump and up for a burp pipe.
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    With a S/C built out of a tote just as you show, would it be worth it at all to just go ahead and add a roll of poly straping for added bio?

    I realized you would have to pull it out and clean it good a couple times a year but would it reduce the preformance of the s/c?

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    P....... it will work but has some drawbacks. First is that a true sc swirls the water around letting the solids drop to the bottom. Wont happen with media (strapping). The media will trap the solids. But, you are right in that it will give more bio... the only problem is that its going to get nasty alot sooner. If you don't mine shutting the sc down; shaking out the media; and then draining the sc, it WILL work.
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    Thanks !

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    Bummer to see that these cannot be buried. I figured they werent the strongest but figured they would work with the cage. You have first hand experience on that Birdman?

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    Just a few pieces of plywood and its good !

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    Yup. Alls you really need to do is just slip a sheet of plywood between the cage and plastic container. That or just slip it between the cage and dirt. You dont even need to hammer, screw, or square anything really. Good Luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasTravis View Post
    Yup. Alls you really need to do is just slip a sheet of plywood between the cage and plastic container. That or just slip it between the cage and dirt. You dont even need to hammer, screw, or square anything really. Good Luck
    That's basicly what I do, just cheap, scrap plywood around the outside.
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    Here are some pics of Colin's filter tote.
    It's not complete and is shown in stages. The first on has 2 basket that now has spring flow in them. Then it goes to the next one via 2-4" pipes. The bio chamber will hold kaldness and be boiled with 2- 9" diffusers.
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    In this setup (SC with pre-filter), how often do you have to clean the pre-filter baskets? Thanks-

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    Quote Originally Posted by prestongohlke View Post
    With a S/C built out of a tote just as you show, would it be worth it at all to just go ahead and add a roll of poly straping for added bio?

    I realized you would have to pull it out and clean it good a couple times a year but would it reduce the preformance of the s/c?

    P
    the only problem with that is the strapping will eventually take care of the bio load and you won't need the MB's any more...

    That's why you always run bio chambers in parallel instead of in series, the second one won't have much to do but sit there and twiddle it's thumbs(media)
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    Quote Originally Posted by maygarden View Post
    In this setup (SC with pre-filter), how often do you have to clean the pre-filter baskets? Thanks-
    Depends of what kind of waste and how much your pond is generating. I have seen pre filters go a week and at other times, mostly because of algae, needing to be cleaned a couple of times a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman View Post
    Next I like to replace the odd bottom drain valve with a 3" knife valve. After dismantling the stock valve use a 3 1/2 inch hole saw to cut a new hole for the new valve.

    Install 3" male and female electrical conduit adapters. These elec. conduit adapters have straight cut threads and will screw together tight unlike the PVC or ABS adapters with tapered pipe threads. I use PL roof and flashing cement to seal all adapters used for this.

    Once this is done it's ready for the 3" knife valve. I installed my knife valve right at the tank but it can be installed anywhere in line that is easy accessible.
    Steve, Is that particular replaced bottom drain used for anything? Since your inlets and outlets are both 1/3 the way up the side of the tote, couldn't that "odd" drain just be left alone? I'll be pumping my tank out with a sump pump and will have a static prefilter basket of pvc shavings. Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by sworley View Post
    Steve, Is that particular replaced bottom drain used for anything? Since your inlets and outlets are both 1/3 the way up the side of the tote, couldn't that "odd" drain just be left alone? I'll be pumping my tank out with a sump pump and will have a static prefilter basket of pvc shavings. Thanks
    Yes, in your case, just leave it alone.
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