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      Japan Koi buying trip this spring!

      I've gone to Japan 3 times to buy koi and the best koi I've ever gotten was in the spring. I'll be going again this coming spring to buy high quality tosai and nisai. Anyone interested can contact me at koi@bellsouth.net

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      Gene, I am in the process of digging a mud pond, some good tosai from Japan would be



      a great way to start it off. I'll be in touch soon....Gene G.

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      how about some details like the number of breeders you will be visiting the amount of days spend and so on thnaks



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      Quote Originally Posted by Oakridge View Post
      Gene, I am in the process of digging a mud pond, some good tosai from Japan would be



      a great way to start it off. I'll be in touch soon....Gene G.
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      Quote Originally Posted by kwickcut View Post
      how about some details like the number of breeders you will be

      visiting the amount of days spend and so on thnaks



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      I'll be spneding a week (7 days) in Niigata and I may even visit some of the southern breeders. In order to buy tategoi quality koi I will have to visit many breeders to find the ones that have more tategoi than they have room for in their mud ponds. Which ones those are can change from one year to another, so you have to look.

      This will be my fourth trip to Niigata and the first trip I made in the spring of 2006 I was able to buy some of the very high quality tosai and even a few nisai. I've called several of the clients that purchased these koi from me and asked them to email me comments about how those koi developed. So far, everyone I've spoken with were very pleased with how those koi have developed.

      Below are the results of one of the tosai Kohaku from Torazo that Bart (Hammerhead) bought from me at 8". He grew it to 27.5" and it recently won grand champion at the Atlanta koi show.

      The first couple of days I hit as many breeders as I can to see what they have available and then I'll go back to the ones that offer the best koi for the money.

      Breeders that will be on my list and maybe some that are not:

      Dainichi
      Torazo
      Yagenji
      Izumiya
      Kaneko
      Kase
      Shintaro
      Yamamatsu
      Isa Hajime
      Marudo
      Oya
      Shinoda
      Shintaro
      Kansuke
      Hasegawa
      Hiroi Seiji
      Hiroi/Yozaimon
      Marusei
      Marusho
      Oomo
      Otsuka
      Nogami
      Maruju
      Katsumi
      Aoki

      Here is a link to a thread of my first spring trip.
      https://www.koiphen.com/forums/showth...illage+Niigata
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      Gene, how many koi will fit into a box and what kind of average price. I am thinking about talking to our koi club to see they want to use my mudpond for a group growout. Also check out the emergency forum and see if you have any ideas??????

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      How many per box depends on the size. The higher quality tosai usually run 20-27 and nisai can be from 2-5. I won't know the price until I visit the breeders, but from past experience the tategoi quality tosai will run $200-300, the nisai $600-$1,000 and for a really superb nisai around $2,000. I can also buy very nice tosai that I can sell from $75-$150.
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      That would be great! It's a hard trip for an old man.
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      Hi Gen: Can you provide us an approximate cost for this trip for one.
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      Hi Gen: Can you provide us an approximate cost for this trip for one.
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      The cost for airfare, hotel and meals would run about $2,000.00 for a week. You would have to add to that the cost of transportation to the breeders and any koi or other things you would buy.
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      I've received some email inquiries about the trip, so I'll post answers here as well.

      You get the best price on koi if you give me the money before I leave the US. The next best price is if you pay me while in Japan. I can accept PayPal, Visa, MC or Discover. The higest price is for koi I buy for resale after I get back.

      At the end of each day in Japan I'll post photos and make comments on the koi I find. My focus will be on those koi that have been paid for in advance and those koi individuals have asked for me to look for.

      I will offer grow on service in one of my mud ponds for any of the high end koi that individuals buy and the fee is $200 per year for tosai and $300 per year on nisai.

      The advantage of paying in advance is that I'll be able to get the koi if I find it. I've learned a lot during my 3 previous trips. During my second trip I received an email from a client asking for a certain variety nisai. Unfortunately it was too late because I had been to the breeder that had some beautiful examples of that variety and I wasn't able to go back before I had to come home.

      I will have to bring the koi into Atlanta Air Port and clear customs and then I'll bring them back to the farm where each box from the same breeder will go into a separate tank and under go six weeks of quarantine. The koi will be arriving here in the States the end of April or first of May.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Gene View Post
      I've gone to Japan 3 times to buy koi and the best koi I've ever gotten was in the spring. I'll be going again this coming spring to buy high quality tosai and nisai. Anyone interested can contact me at koi@bellsouth.net

      Gene, sent you a email...

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      Gene, sent you a email...
      It was nice talking with you again, Dan. I'll do my best for you!
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      Anytime!


      BTW, this trip is shaping up better and better!
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      Oh NO- are you going??? I have passport in hand!!!!
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