I feel like this could be a good learning experience and a fun thread idea.
Please post your favorite breeder and possibly a picture of a fish bred by their farm that illustrates the traits that are produced there.
My personal favorite is Sakai for the rose bloodline of kohaku. Alexandria and...
I thought this might be a fun little subject being there are so many breeds... I don't know how to post pictures so I'll just say Butterfly Kin Kikokuryu... Let the games begin :yahoo:
1. How big should fish be before breeding them?
2. What combination of parent fish should I use to breed different varieties? Because I know that list could go on and on, I'm most interested in eventually breeding Chagoi, Asagi, Kohaku, Ochiba, Soragoi and Ogon. I know that that is already a long...
I just breed Kohaku, Sanke.
now babies 6 days old.
Iam posting here 2 days old and 6 days old pictures. most welcome reviews and comments.
2 Days Old
I have a dealer offered me this Shusui. He said it was a normal Shusui but it did mutated and loss its coloration. I like its current state right now. I would like to know if it will keep this colour. And if it could keep its colour how will the offspring be?
I live in Norway.
Here in europe long fin koi is not very common.
I have just received a long fin koi from Japan, that my koi dealer
arranged for me. :yes:
The breader is Yamazaki.
I think they look beutyfull!
I've searched and searched but cant find any info... I looked here http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21944 but it does not say what is desirable?
I picked up my Ochiba about 2 years ago,.. at 6", it is now at 16-18", The pattern is supposed to be "autumn leaves falling on water" ...
As far as types of koi, can anyone tell me what my 8 koi are? Other than fish.. lol
I have two black ones (Baily, Cp.Morgan) are black with white fins and underbelly, They changed to a brown when we put them in a blue swimming pool.
Gretchin is white with orange spots with black dots on or...
I am a fan of Goshiki.. I am just curious why in Indonesia, we don't produce great Goshiki. I have asked around and went in a search but find none of local Goshiki is as good as those imported. I Love Kanno's!!
After talked to several breeder friends online. They told me that our water is not...
I have breed this Koi and I got the parents also accidentally from my homebreeding. Ginrin Doitsu Scale as the example of the first generation of the Gen in my homebreeding
These are the first generation unfortunately all of them died due to Bad Koi keeping at that time..
im wanting to buy kohaku ,shiro,showa,an tancho but when they breed will he babies become ugly? beacuse it crossed with diffent vareties of koi? i will buy high quality koi
Hello, I am trying to learn all I can on here about koi fish. I'm wondering what all these Japanese names are referring to, Such as: Gin Rin Hi Utsuri, Asagi, Chagoi, ect. ect.
Are these breeds, color patterns? How many are there?
What little I have read about koi genetics, there does not seem to be much knowledge about it.
I read an article in one of my koi books about a simple study that was done.
It suggested white koi bred to white will produce white offspring. White to yellow- the yellow will be the dominate color....
I just found this. It is not mine but I thought some of us would want to watch it.
Our pond isn't finished yet, but we have a batch of babies living in the garage! Here are some pics from a couple of days ago - let us know what you think of the babies. The biggest one in the pics is Oreo - he's about 9", so that gives you some perspective on the size of the rest of...
Is it possible to breed pond grade fish and obtain high quality fish? (Even if its only one)
My reasoning for this thought is, that somewhere in the pond grade bloodline would have to be high quality ? And please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong... But wouldn't it be possible to obtain a...
Whats the deal with completly black koi ?? I mean jet black with no markings or grays. Out of all the fry I've been growing I only have one all jet black ??? He stands out even though he's only black. Very rarely if ever do you see them for sale and I'm just wondering why ??? I have a real nice...
Hi,I am new in having koi laying eggs in my new pond and my question is should remove those eggs to another tank or just leave it there,Those eggs are all over the whole pond under those floating plant.Needs urgent help,thanks in advance.
I am pretty sure this is a bloodline, and i know it both is said of the koi bred by both sakai of hiroshima, toshio sakai, and other breeders, but could someone please explain the origins of matsunosuke as well as its general appearance/attributes?
What do you all think of this guy? Is this a Kikokuryu? Ugly or kinda cool? He/she is about a year old, ~7".
Any one here of them? I heard there koi all posess jumbo genealogy. Thoughts about breeder? and there koi?
I would like to spawn long fins ( next spring ) and wondered about their genetics. If I spawn a regular finned koi to a long fin koi, should I expect to get long fin in the first generation or will I have to wait for the second generation ? Also, is it best to spawn longfin to longfin ?
are there any Tancho Kohaku for sale in or around Ohio?
im looking for Tancho Koi only...
Here is something i got via this site a long while back. It serves as a good starting point in trying to identify different types.I use it alot. Hope it helps somebody.
Besides the many activities that are going on in the South and the West of Japan regarding to breeding, also in the Niigate area several breeders are since May already very busy with the most important season of the year: the breeding season!
Read more this weekend at...
The reproduction season in Japan is already fully started and this provides interesting news. From reliable sources I heard the Grand Champion Kohaku from the previous (42th) edition of the All Japan Combined Nishikigoi Show spawned successfully! The impressive story of the M Kohaku continuous…
Is there any one that can tell me where I can find a large dark color chagoi?
Contact Dennis at
" A ladder koi is a Doitsu carring the scaled gene ,in the form of a lateral zipline on both sides of the fish this is important to have this as it stops the death gene in your doitsu fish !." copied from Wayne1 in his thread about last years spawn that included ladder koi.
Wayne, what are you...
This is Sheldon, aka Shelly. We got him/her in Sept, at the WA Koi & Water Garden Society annual show. Ian caught Shelly using a rice paper net (no joke - rice paper nets! Its a kids game Ian looks forward to every year. He also caught a standard fin Chagoi this year, too!). Shelly...
I paid attention to your koi poll and the #1 demand was ochiba, soragoi, asagi. So on that note success with ochiba x soragoi spawning, should see half and half.:yahoo: Its not over until the fat lady sings, cause other things can go wrong, however have thousands of eggs that are fertile ( can see...
hi all, i have always been curious of what type of koi my fish are.
i have done some research but to no avail.
if anyone can help me out of 5 of my fish that would be wonderful. thanks everyone.
(p.s.) sorry for the images, tried to combine them together.
What do you fellow long fin fans think of this one, and what variety is this guy/girl? About a year old, ~7".
He's known for his goromo, but breeds asagi as well.
Just curious if anyone has asagi of his...I've only seen a couple of examples and would love to see more.
If anyone has pics of sakazume asagi and wouldn't mind sharing, I'd be grateful!
I've gotten into carp fishing recently at a local park pond and have caught several Koi people have released. So I decided to take them home and put them in my little gold fish pond until the 1645 gallon pond is finished.
Well, I bought this house a year ago. The pond in the back had some gold fish in it but the pump was not running, water was black, dead leaves throughout, and algae was everywhere. I did my homework, got it going and have added some koi fish. Can anyone give me some input on the quality of my...
check out bickal.com for some great priced koi and the delivery deal is great too!:punk1::cool:
Last year, I emptied the basket in my skimmer and saw a small fish move within the junk in the basket. The fish was only an inch or so.
I placed the fish back in the pond and today I was able to bowl the fish and get some pics. Please don't laugh at the color of the bowl. It was the only...
Here is a video that Maeda San gave me a DVD of today promoting Momotaro Koi Farm as well as one of his other companies "Old Boy". I have uploaded it to youtube.com, with the permission of Momotaro Koi Farm, for everyone to watch...
Recent purchase of a future potential oyagoi female kohaku from Mr. Seiji Hiroi at Kokugyokan Koi Farm. Kokugyokan Nishikigoi farm is one of the top Kohaku breeders in Niigata, Japan with their top specimens wining numerous major koi shows." His bloodline is unique.. Dainich x Sensuke bloodline...
I have read and learned a lot here on koiphen, but this is my first post. We will arrange our first growing competition in Norway, and has ordered Shiro utsuri from Kaneko.
We find little information about Kaneko's blood lines and the development of his Shiro utsuri.
Does anyone have any...
What might this be?
It was posted on one of the fishing sites I belong to...
Although he is pretty homely, he (or she...) was our first koi. Only about 6" long right now. Anyone have a clue what it might be? Secondly, any predictions on how he will look in a year or two?
Hello fellow fish lovers!
In your considerable experience, are there any little, physical nuances to look for in Asagi that tend to be indicators of gender?
I have 2 and 3 year old koi and 3 year old goldfish. Somebody spawned last year which we were aware of but don't know who was successful (mass spawn). We ended up with 1 baby. It stayed green all last year. This summer it turned from dark green to orange with a black back to totally orange. It is...
These are male Hasegawa kohaku, that just came out of shipping bag, shiro looks a little stress.. He uses a very old bloodline called Tomoin that produce a auesume beni. His first female many years ago that produce koi was called Scarlet Queen. I hope to cross these in several years with my Sakai...
Due to my relative lack of knowledge, I have a question. What is the difference between Sanke and Showa. I am relatively new to Koi and my basic understanding is that a Sanke is a black fish with red and some white. Where as a Showa is a white fish with Red and some black. I do relaize that the...
the frys are around 3 months old. One of the mama is the gin rin chagoi 30 inches, and kohaku 26 inches. I separated the frys into 3 baskets, small, medium, and tobies
I have already heard from many that this is a mutt, some say it looks to have some asagi lineage, others say matsuba. The scales are very random, which I think adds to the uniqueness of the fish. So, most likely Kawaragoi.....right?
anyhow, many here have had a good time with it, so with this...
For YEARS I've wondered where will it end...the idiocy of just because a fish is big it is beautiful.
This isn't my knee jerk reaction to the almost ugly, Sanke, recent GC.
I've often pondered the meaning of beauty...and it ain't "Bigness".
Bigness is for pumpkin contest.
I would like to hear from Texas and San Antonio area koi keepers to correspond with. Time to time I have koi to give away since I want to keep my stocking as close to 1000 gallons per fish as possible and just talk about our unique water conditions in Texas. Please pm or respond to topic. As far as...
I am looking at getting some breeders, what bloodlines would be good to start off with?
Momotaro, Dainichi, Hasegawa, Sakai, Hoshikin?
Any other bloodlines, what should I be cautious of.
My friend just added a lot of talapia in his 4000 gallon kpi pond, my question is can those two types of fish compatible with each other. The talapia have already spawned and semm to be doing well its the koi that I'm worried about. His talipia were in his qt tank for alost 6 months.
not to hijack someone elses thread i thought id ask a question myself, its already been answered somewhere else but id like a more in depth answer so i have changed it slightly;)
i have been looking at genetics lately trying to learn the back ground of breeders / bloodlines, i read that some...
This koi was white and yellow this winter indoors. After being put outdoors the white has turned grey or silver and the yellow is a chocolate brown. Any clue?
I really like my butterfly koi and do not see many that are sold today that have fins as nice. So, I play around with breeding my own.
This year I moved 2 females and 3 males to the spawning tank on Tuesday afternoon. By the next morning they were spawning. One female did not spawn or at least I...
can i get some info on breeder-dealers between Dallas and Atlanta.
just the names and city. looking to drive over that way. and want to stop and look along the way.
I have seen references about growing longfins to rapidly and they 'outgrow their fins". What does this mean? Are they really outgrowing their fins or is there a high percentage of normal fins in that particular spawn? What is too fast?
How do you grow fingerlings/fry to fast? If you don't...
Just a quick question about shiro's to see if there is a general rule so to speak about the head color.
I have an Omosako shiro that I was told was hand selected by Omosako-san himself. It is going into its second summer now, ... or will be in a few months. It's head is still creamy colored,...
The first photo was taken at 19months in Japan last October or November. I bought her last March from Kevin and she shipped to the states last May. She was thin and in poor condition. She received some handling or shipping damage to her fin. The dealer has been watching over her and feels she will...
I was wondering if anyone can give me at least a short list of breeders that are North of Tokyo? Its looking like I might get to go on a Koi buying trip with a friend of mine This Oct. and would like to know a few names up that way.
Hello All. I've been on this site as a visitor for weeks now and as a member for a few days and I must say you guys & gals are awsome. You have already taught me so much, I can't begin to express my thanks for the headaches saved. :bow:
To make a long story short, I want to dabble with koi...
How old?? KOI mature releady breeding.??:punk1:
i have a male showa, first one and a female tancho showa,second one, i am just wondering if i would have a good spawn with these two, would i get a fair amount of fry with the spawn, they are young, but i want to try it this season. i also have a male kohaku i was thinking about adding into the...
We all know in general that shimi's appear in ponds where there is hard waters. What about those of us who experience single shimi's appearing on kohaku on hi plates after years of hard water turned to soft water or always in soft waters. Another observation, not all kohaku develop shimi's.
Hi I am new to this forum btw. I started about 2 months ago building my koi pond and from then on I have fallen in love with hobby. These are my frist 2 fish I will be getting them This Thur. I think they are pretty and I plan on breeding them. Do you think they will be good to breed together ? Im...
Is there a name for this type of butterfly koi? I got this one about a year ago and totally love his uncommon random scales here and there on his body. He/she was one of 4 or 5 in the tank at the pet store I bought it at. They shut down and I haven't seen another butterfly koi like it since. I was...
I want to know more about specific breeder's. How do their fish develop what do they specialize in and what are traits specific or unique to their koi. I've heard Uonoma mentioned before and I dislike the little Kodama blurbs, they don't tell me much. Does anyone own fish by him, or can they tell...
Would like to welcome and invite you to Sundan albums. All the koi you will see are of my parent stock or koi I have bred here at the farm. I lived in Japan for several years as a young boy and it had a impact on my life, someday I hope to go back. Please enjoy pictures of Japanese gardens,...
dont know what kind of koi they are but maybe some of you talented people can make out what i have from the crappyest pictures youve probably ever seen.
or maybe im out of luck and will just have to wait till they get bigger
well here they are
What causes jagged definition like on this 14" Hoshikan Kohaku tosai? Good, bad, or just different?
hi...im very new to this but recently attended the koi show in chicago and really wanted to find a doitsu ochiba like the huge ones that were swimming around in the judging vats...where can i find small (6-12") ones???? Any help appreciated...thanks.
sorry pics arent the best but its hot and the sun glares off of the water but did my best. Enjoy and let me know any comments.
was in my pond yesterday and I had new fry this spring they have gown some, but this one i can not figure out what kind it was any help would be apprecitated.
So, I looked in my pond the other day and there were about 8 new additions?
I had 1 koi and one goldfish in my pond, its a new pond, no wheres near finished. My old man had bought me the fish as a present, and I wasnt really ready for them, but since the summer was over the project stopped till...
my biggest concern is baby koi will die when they arrived. I know i was suppose to double bag, ice pack if needed, insulate the box, use styrofoam. What type of transportion method is ideal? The shipment is from California to Alabama. Any help woud be greatly appreciated.
I have a sanke with Jinbei heritage. Anybody care to give a little background on what that means and what I can expect from this girl? Links with info/pics so I can bone up on it a bit?
I did a google search with not the best results. :rolleyes:
I would like to know what I should pair her with. So fat I've been told to avoid fins as long as hers because the young will be sickly- They said to use a white or white and yellow pearl scale medium fin.
Should the male be around the same size as her?
I breed guppy and albino corey...
One of my books on koi had a little on genetics of breeding.
It stated breeding two doitsu, results in high mortality rates. Something to do with the genetics. Have you seen this happen with doitsu spawns?
I spawned some of my butterfly koi in Wednesday. I saw several fry last night (Friday) and there more today but still hatching.
These fry are in clean water from the well placed in the tank the day before fish introduced for the spawn.
When should they get their first feeding of brine shrimp?...
Hi all..., I want to collect some unique koi. I had have some karasu goi, kumonryu and so on. Yesterday, a local breeder from Blitar, Indonesia, have some kikokuryu. He said, kikokuryu is one of unique kois. I want to buy them, but I never seen what kikokuryu is. I want to see some pics of...
Momotoaro's go-sanke are now pictured on his web page. Which dealers will be taking bids for customers?
I have not purchased a show quality koi in a while. I would like to hear about domestic and foreign koi sales. Have the pricing in Japan for show quality koi gone down or up? Is breeding levels fallen or remained the same? Any comments?
Dick or anyone else who understands the basic bodystyles,what body catagory would you put Marusei Chagoi? Dick,you recently posted in the thread 'how many kohakus' that the majority of your koi are matsunosuke bloodline. Is conformation what you meant? I've looked at a lot of Marusei Chagoi and...
first off, i don't know if this is the right place to post this.
if i want to get a ki mastuba, can i breed my yamabuki with a orange mastuba?
Hello everyone. I have been trying to dig up some information on kohaku losing their colour. I have found only limited information stating that it is a fairly common occurrence. What I cannot find is if the hi will come back or if it is gone for good. Can anyone chime in on this for me? I have...
when breeding sanke. with red hi pattern on both parents and the fry produced turns out orange patterns underneath the sumi, say about when the fry are 3 months old. will the fry turn out red pattern in future? can some people on this forum show photos of their sanke fry from beginning to mature...
Found 3 white spots on one of my koi today
The rest of the fish look good, dont know what to do so i'm going to start with testing the water.
i guess it would be smart to get it out of the pond as soon as i can
could use some feed back
I have 2 others koi that I am not really sure as previously posted?
1th- Ochiba? (body color is strange, does not looks soragoi )
2nd-Doitsu ? (the sumi just adding up week after week)
Should I spend time for them to grow?
Many thanks for your time!
Not sure about my babies varieties! please help! they are around 5-6 inches long and very tame!
1st fish- Is it a Komonryu? if affirmative then what type?
2 nd fish- Doitsu Chagoi or Midorigoi?
Should I keep them or give them to my red asian arowana for snak?
I messed up on how I started the new liife of my pond. What I thought was that I needed to "SEASON" my water with goldfish, the comet kind, most of them died and the few that lived I could really catch and never thought about the koi that I got later that they would be mating with each other and...
my name is mark and i am from the wonderful town of Wigan (near manchester) uk. i built a 1500gal pound in may so have been keeping koi for 7 months, now i have followed some of the rules for buying yound koi, dont buy finished articles and try to find something you like.
Wonder if the yellow with little white on the fins is a doitsu Hariwake or :Drogar-Mark-02(LBG) . It has a face of a cat therefore I call him/her "Pusur".
The other one is a tancho Goshiki I guess, it was a tancho Kohaku originally.
I have noticed my female kin ki utsuri looks much different in body construction from my other nishikikoi. The head is broader, massive body, eyes wider set and most interesting-this koi is the only one in our pond that the tail fine and dorsal stands out of the water. She is 3-years old and 23+...
Kumonryu is a black and white koi with a constantly changing pattern. How do you select one that is of high quality at 6-7" ?
Any help will be appreciated.
If there are please PM. I am interested in a female Showa and Kohaku for show.
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