Koiphen.com - Amateur Breeders Forum http://www.koiphen.com/forums/ en Thu, 23 May 2013 20:25:11 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.koiphen.com/forums/images/misc/rss.png Koiphen.com - Amateur Breeders Forum http://www.koiphen.com/forums/ 2013 flock spawn - they look frisky tonight http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137666-2013-flock-spawn-they-look-frisky-tonight&goto=newpost Tue, 21 May 2013 03:16:27 GMT brushes are in, fingers crossed. brushes are in, fingers crossed. ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum Charlie Brown http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137666-2013-flock-spawn-they-look-frisky-tonight <![CDATA[I think they're gonna spawn...]]> http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137635-I-think-they-re-gonna-spawn...&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 03:49:49 GMT Every time I do water changes the new feesh start chasing each other around, mainly the big kohaku is harassing the kikokuryu and one of the chags. It calms down after a few minutes but I can tell there's something going on..

There's nothing in the pond (this is the only thing that's stopping them, I think) and I've been tossing the idea around of throwing a few spawning mops in there a few days before I move them to the Big Pool, so I don't have to deal with the nasty water and get my first group of fry to raise. Think it'll work or are they just being weird? ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum Midorigoi http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137635-I-think-they-re-gonna-spawn... <![CDATA['Breeding' with 'pond mutts'... why??]]> http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137633-Breeding-with-pond-mutts-...-why&goto=newpost Mon, 20 May 2013 02:40:03 GMT Ok, this is probably going to rattle a few cages, however ever since I became involved in the 'Koi fraternity' this has bothered me.

Why do people think it is OK to breed their very average, and in some cases quite sub-standard, 'pond mutts'? :confused: I just don't get it. If you breed 'pond mutt' to pond mutt, you will invariably get (wait for it!!)... pond mutts! :uggg:

These are the people that purchased a few pet Koi with no original intent of breeding from them - then suddenly decide 'Ohhh I'll breed from them!' And it is usually by people who post asking... What variety is my cute pet Koi that I want to 'breed' from??!! (And this is usually met with very few replies because the answer is... pond-mutt-variety).

I will stress here, I'm not talking about the people who intentionally set about to purchase thought-out breeding stock, with a definite aim and direction of improving, or producing 'better' than the parent Koi.!

I have found that there is a distinct lack of thought and responsibility by a lot of Koi 'pet owners' (putting it a little harshly, maybe) when it comes to breeding Koi :shrug:

Thousands and thousands of 'mutt babies' are produced in a single 'breeding'... many killed (culled) and most appear to end up in 'pet shops' or given away. This then just perpetuates the 'breeding' of poor quality Koi as these poor quality Koi flood the market (which is a jolly small market anyway!).

This reduces the number of homes available to the 'good quality' Koi because the 'average hobbyists' pond are already over-stocked with Koi crap... er... I mean Koi carp!

This in turn, puts pressure on people trying really hard to 'improve' the breed by learning, researching, spending a bucket load of money on quality stock (or the very best they can, given the state of Koi in their country), feed and conditions to raise and keep their fry and Koi because of 'over supply', the price plummets for their 'quality' Koi.

Consequently, it also creates a situation where-by the 'market' is just plain flooded with 'mutts', it becomes harder and harder to find good quality 'pet Koi'.

Are these the same people that think it is Ok to let their cute little mixed breed dog (bitza-mutt) breed with next doors mutt, just because it will have 'cute' puppies or because they can't be bothered having them de-sexed... or fenced in properly? Or allow their moggie cat to have litter after litter of kittens... just because?

I understand that Koi in a pond will breed with no help or encouragement from us! This again, is not the point of this 'rant' as this just cannot reasonably be controlled by the average 'pet' owner. This is a 'rant' directed at those that deliberately and knowingly decide to 'breed' their pond-mutts.

Am I being to judgmental and harsh? Maybe I am, however I can think of no other breeding situation where it is perceived as OK to breed sub-standard animal to sub-standard animal and get a round of applause for it. ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum Bunyip http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137633-Breeding-with-pond-mutts-...-why new fry pics http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137589-new-fry-pics&goto=newpost Sat, 18 May 2013 03:24:39 GMT here they are guys, all input needed as i cant fry identify yet.let me know what they are here they are guys, all input needed as i cant fry identify yet.let me know what they are
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]]> Amateur Breeders Forum Sweetpinkice http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137589-new-fry-pics crossbreeding Ogon and Doitsu what do you get? http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137585-crossbreeding-Ogon-and-Doitsu-what-do-you-get&goto=newpost Sat, 18 May 2013 00:08:49 GMT I think thats right. The Koi with the little scales and the scale less with the zipper going down the back... What do you get when you crossbreed the 2? Do you get a bunch of random scales? I think thats right. The Koi with the little scales and the scale less with the zipper going down the back... What do you get when you crossbreed the 2? Do you get a bunch of random scales? ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum MarketMerlin http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137585-crossbreeding-Ogon-and-Doitsu-what-do-you-get Long fins http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137575-Long-fins&goto=newpost Fri, 17 May 2013 21:14:56 GMT I just got home from work and went to clean filters / water change in ponds. QT / spawning pond was very scummy. Two big LF showa's spawned today. I was hoping to do a little work on that pond before the full moon next week. Sure hope fry like string algae! The algae is about 1/2 long loaded with eggs. ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum jimc2142003 http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137575-Long-fins breeding longfin with standared fin http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137565-breeding-longfin-with-standared-fin&goto=newpost Fri, 17 May 2013 17:09:24 GMT How dose that work. Do you get some of both or shorter long fins and some longer short fins? Does it matter if its the male or female that has long fins? If both fish have long fins, Do you get all long fin fry? How dose that work.
Do you get some of both or shorter long fins and some longer short fins?
Does it matter if its the male or female that has long fins?
If both fish have long fins, Do you get all long fin fry? ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum MarketMerlin http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137565-breeding-longfin-with-standared-fin I have babies!!!!! http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137563-I-have-babies!!!!!&goto=newpost Fri, 17 May 2013 15:20:27 GMT Whew...so excited, had to share with fellow koi-fanatics!! Last week my mom's koi spawned on floating hyacinths. I put the plants in her bog area for the eggs to hatch. However, the weather got really cold and I wasn't able to get the plants inside......I watched them for about 5 days after the eggs were laid...nothing. So I just figured they weren't going to hatch. But I noticed yesterday, there were babies!!! Not very many...I just saw about 20. I know there's probably alot more I couldn't see. So I put some brine shrimp eggs in the bog area....mostly where I was seeing babies. These were unplanned babies, so they will probably grow up in the pond.....but I'm so excited to have gotten any from this batch!! I'm definately ready to start spawning the rest of my fish next week...looking forward to a big batch of babies!!! YEAH!!!!!:yahoo::cheer: ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum Nikki1011 http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137563-I-have-babies!!!!! Gin Rin Taisho Sanke Koibay Karasu pikachu Whats all this mean? http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137533-Gin-Rin-Taisho-Sanke-Koibay-Karasu-pikachu-Whats-all-this-mean&goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 05:03:42 GMT I see all these kinds of names thrown around everywhere online and without any context to start from, non of it makes any since lol Even doing a google search I end up with the same fish pictures. I have been trying to get an idea of where to start for a couple of weeks now. I have a 1.5 acre pond,... I see all these kinds of names thrown around everywhere online and without any context to start from, non of it makes any since lol Even doing a google search I end up with the same fish pictures. I have been trying to get an idea of where to start for a couple of weeks now. I have a 1.5 acre pond, 3/4 acre pond and 2 smaller ponds on my property and thought about putting a few fish in one of them and see what happens ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum MarketMerlin http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137533-Gin-Rin-Taisho-Sanke-Koibay-Karasu-pikachu-Whats-all-this-mean have a few questions about breeding http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137427-have-a-few-questions-about-breeding&goto=newpost Sat, 11 May 2013 22:31:48 GMT hi,

im not a koi keeper (yet), but i have a friend who is and he has a few questions about breeding. he doesn't speak english so yea thats why im asking.

1. how big does a koi have to be to be ? what i read is anything over 10 inches
2. has any one here used hcg to induce spawning ?
3. is there an alternative to malachite ?
4. if you can give us a step by step to artificial fertilization we would really appreciate it. ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum garkoi http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137427-have-a-few-questions-about-breeding What will I get???? http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137389-What-will-I-get&goto=newpost Fri, 10 May 2013 14:39:11 GMT If I have a platinum female.....platinum male and a white matusba male....what would the fry be??:humble2: If I have a platinum female.....platinum male and a white matusba male....what would the fry be??:humble2: ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum Nikki1011 http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137389-What-will-I-get Probable spawning activity! http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137333-Probable-spawning-activity!&goto=newpost Wed, 08 May 2013 13:42:14 GMT So I just moved my fish into my first aquaponics system tote, and noticed one of my fish was rather "overweight." I'm pretty sure she's ready to release some eggs shortly. I've noticed that a number of the other larger koi in the tank have been chasing her relentlessly. I am trying desperately to get the other three tanks connected so that I can seperate her and the other Ochiba and Chagoi as I believe they may both be male. I am going to try to pick up a mop head today to try to give them some "spawning ropes" and then I will need to try to grow some daphnia if I can get them moved before a major flock spawning happens and all the eggs get eaten. I'd love any pointers or suggestions you may have to try to be as successful as possible. I'm a MAJOR amateur, so I'm sure I'll lose a number of the fry even if I get to that point, but I'd like to be as prepared as possible. ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum lifeoffaith http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137333-Probable-spawning-activity! What do you think of these Koi? http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137295-What-do-you-think-of-these-Koi&goto=newpost Mon, 06 May 2013 22:57:52 GMT This are not my Koi, but I was wondering what you thought of them, and what kind they are? :3 Image: http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg586/Lugavnoff/koi4.jpg (http://s1245.photobucket.com/user/Lugavnoff/media/koi4.jpg.html) Image:... This are not my Koi, but I was wondering what you thought of them, and what kind they are? :3





]]> Amateur Breeders Forum Lugavnoff http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137295-What-do-you-think-of-these-Koi What to feed Koi fry?? http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137283-What-to-feed-Koi-fry&goto=newpost Mon, 06 May 2013 12:53:46 GMT The past couple spawnings, I've just fed my koi brine shrimp flakes....I would grind them up and sprinkle it in their pools. I've been reading that alot of people feed their fry live food. How would I do this? so many questions for this....Can I grow them myself...how far in advance do I start growing their food?? What if it is too big for the fry to eat?? I'm at a loss with this...am I making it harder than it really is?? any help would be great!:D: ]]> Amateur Breeders Forum Nikki1011 http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137283-What-to-feed-Koi-fry Pics of my Koi.... http://www.koiphen.com/forums/showthread.php?137217-Pics-of-my-Koi....&goto=newpost Fri, 03 May 2013 12:12:13 GMT :yahoo: The black and white is the koi that accidentally spawned. Pretty girl.....Let me know your thoughts on my koi! Be gentle....I love my babies!! :iamok: :yahoo:

The black and white is the koi that accidentally spawned. Pretty girl.....Let me know your thoughts on my koi! Be gentle....I love my babies!!

:iamok:
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